If you're atheist..

[Emadyville]

I'm not trolling at all.

And I did reply to you. I just don't have complete conscience control over any of my thoughts, decisions and actions.

And I'll just leave this to the whole agree to disagree thing

[CrashBand]

Sweet, but you should do some research.

I'd recommend starting with Sam Harris. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCofmZlC72g

People will realise that the argument is so strong it seems obvious.

[Emadyville]

Sweet, but you should do some research.

I'd recommend starting with Sam Harris. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCofmZlC72g

People will realise that the argument is so strong it seems obvious.

i will check it out right now unless its really long, as in to watch now

[SliK]

Sweet, but you should do some research.

I'd recommend starting with Sam Harris. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCofmZlC72g

People will realise that the argument is so strong it seems obvious.

i will check it out right now unless its really long, as in to watch now

It's worth it

[Emadyville]

Sweet, but you should do some research.

I'd recommend starting with Sam Harris. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCofmZlC72g

People will realise that the argument is so strong it seems obvious.

i will check it out right now unless its really long, as in to watch now

It's worth it

i just watched 10 minutes and i feel in the end im still going to disagree with his premise and examples he is given I still feel are not totally accurate, but at the same time i understand his argument and feel that some people maybe are not able to go against what they know is right and wrong and therefore some people in a sense do not have free will even though they have a choice, and others "do" because they choose right over wrong. i'll watch the rest tomo tho

[SliK]

He provides a few thought experiments where he gets you to think about your process and what not. If you don't agree that we have no free will this video will at least show we have less than you may think.

[Emadyville]

He provides a few thought experiments where he gets you to think about your process and what not. If you don't agree that we have no free will this video will at least show we have less than you may think.

no i understand that idea, cause i have to sorta agree with him on that, even tho it still comes down (to me) the idea that you have a billion other choices then doing what it is thats wrong or you shouldnt be doing. but i'll watch the rest, thanks for sharing this with me

[CrashBand]

and others "do" because they choose right over wrong. i'll watch the rest tomo tho

This is a redundant point and a misconception. That's just saying the people who are lucky enough to choose right they have free will.

[Emadyville]

and others "do" because they choose right over wrong. i'll watch the rest tomo tho

This is a redundant point and a misconception. That's just saying the people who are lucky enough to choose right they have free will.

I don't think so, but i feel this idea is easily misconstrued based on specific examples. I'm not saying I know or think one perspective is right or not but imo I feel we all have free will and some are unable to use it correctly, if that makes sense.

[CrashBand]

Can you show how people have conscious control over their thoughts and actions?

[classthe_king]

There's a thread right below this on freewill, why don't you discuss it there lmao

[cityfan31]

I can choose now to either go for a 5 mile jog, Or not.

So there's my free will in action.

[CrashBand]

^ No conscious control. It just seems that way.

Hence it being an illusion.

[cityfan31]

You're talking absolute bollocks. Considering you spent about 10 posts saying we had no conscience control, whatever that means.

Explain yourself.

[Willy]

Just google "freewill debate" and read for yourself. It's pretty Entereztin'