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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Block » Sep 28th, '12, 23:57

This isn't trolling. Just pointing that out first and foremost..

I'm not religious at all, but am I the only one who questions this?:

The rule that matter cannot be created or destroyed has obvious loopholes. The universe somehow came in to existence. How? We'll most likely NEVER know. Even if the infinite universe theory is to be applied, it couldn't have just always been.

But has anyone ever thought, applying the rule that nothing can be created or destroyed, where did our consciousness come from? Where does it go when we die? How did we (all living things) become conscious, living organisms from gas and rock? Sure, there's tons of theories and scapegoats that say, "well, this bacteria did this and this did this." But Nobody can really explain how consciousness came in to being. Life springing from inanimate objects. It's fucking insane to think about. Imagine being able to replicate that? Creating life from seemingly nothing? I don't mean cloning and stupid shit from cells we've already got. I mean creation.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Block » Sep 29th, '12, 00:44

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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Sep 29th, '12, 03:35

Block wrote:This isn't trolling. Just pointing that out first and foremost..

I'm not religious at all, but am I the only one who questions this?:

The rule that matter cannot be created or destroyed has obvious loopholes. The universe somehow came in to existence. How? We'll most likely NEVER know. Even if the infinite universe theory is to be applied, it couldn't have just always been.

But has anyone ever thought, applying the rule that nothing can be created or destroyed, where did our consciousness come from? Where does it go when we die? How did we (all living things) become conscious, living organisms from gas and rock? Sure, there's tons of theories and scapegoats that say, "well, this bacteria did this and this did this." But Nobody can really explain how consciousness came in to being. Life springing from inanimate objects. It's fucking insane to think about. Imagine being able to replicate that? Creating life from seemingly nothing? I don't mean cloning and stupid shit from cells we've already got. I mean creation.


We actually have done and observed this. Not consciousness coming into being but life coming from inanimate objects.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-urey_experiment
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby cityfan31 » Sep 29th, '12, 05:58

Eedee wrote:
cityfan31 wrote:Religion poisons everything - Christopher Hitchens.

That's pretty much my opinion. Religion is the biggest threat to the future of the human race.

I'm studying psychiatry at the moment and I think belief in God could be classed as a delusion - but it's one held by so many that it's not considered a delusion.


As much as I agree with your point, I hate to do this but it's human species* not race. ;)


Such a boring, irrelevant point to make.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Block » Sep 29th, '12, 07:29

classthe_king wrote:
Block wrote:This isn't trolling. Just pointing that out first and foremost..

I'm not religious at all, but am I the only one who questions this?:

The rule that matter cannot be created or destroyed has obvious loopholes. The universe somehow came in to existence. How? We'll most likely NEVER know. Even if the infinite universe theory is to be applied, it couldn't have just always been.

But has anyone ever thought, applying the rule that nothing can be created or destroyed, where did our consciousness come from? Where does it go when we die? How did we (all living things) become conscious, living organisms from gas and rock? Sure, there's tons of theories and scapegoats that say, "well, this bacteria did this and this did this." But Nobody can really explain how consciousness came in to being. Life springing from inanimate objects. It's fucking insane to think about. Imagine being able to replicate that? Creating life from seemingly nothing? I don't mean cloning and stupid shit from cells we've already got. I mean creation.


We actually have done and observed this. Not consciousness coming into being but life coming from inanimate objects.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-urey_experiment


Even though that's really cool and I didn't know an experiment like that took place, I'm not sure it's the same as what I mean. Sure they propagated life, but did they really create it?
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby CrashBand » Sep 29th, '12, 07:50

cityfan31 wrote:
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cityfan31 wrote:I'm studying psychiatry at the moment and I think belief in God could be classed as a delusion - but it's one held by so many that it's not considered a delusion.

obvious point is obvious.


Obvious to you, but not obvious to the billions of people that believe in God. I don't like arrogance.

Not sure how to take this. Was just a joke.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby cityfan31 » Sep 29th, '12, 09:13

CrashBand wrote:Not sure how to take this. Was just a joke.


I was in a bad mood mate, I apologise :b:
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Sep 29th, '12, 19:31

Christians entertain me :wub:
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Sep 29th, '12, 19:47

Menzo wrote:
classthe_king wrote:Christians entertain me :wub:


Opposites attract. :flutter:


Interesting :-k
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Sep 29th, '12, 23:57

one simple thing...

was all this universe and the way everything is created so perfectly an how everything is linked....was all that created by the nature itself somehow.. ?

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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Sep 30th, '12, 00:04

Le Tunisien wrote:one simple thing...

was all this universe and the way everything is created so perfectly an how everything is linked....was all that created by the nature itself somehow.. ?

thanks for your reply


Everything isn't created perfectly. It only appears that way because we exist. We do not know whether the universe was designed for us, or if life as we know it simply arose the only way it could have under the universal conditions that were in place. For us to be able to observe a universe, it has to exist in such a way that it is suited for us to be able to survive in it. Our observations will then of course show that the universe appears to have been formed in such a way so as to make life possible out of necessity, because if it were not we would not have been able to exist here in the first place. A sentient puddle that exists in a pothole might think that the pothole was so perfectly formed to hold it that it must have been designed that way. The nature of the universe is such that we are here; if it were any different we would not be here to ask why it appears so well designed for us. We happen to find ourselves in a universe where life is conveniently possible because we cannot very well be anywhere else.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Sep 30th, '12, 00:05

Block wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
Block wrote:This isn't trolling. Just pointing that out first and foremost..

I'm not religious at all, but am I the only one who questions this?:

The rule that matter cannot be created or destroyed has obvious loopholes. The universe somehow came in to existence. How? We'll most likely NEVER know. Even if the infinite universe theory is to be applied, it couldn't have just always been.

But has anyone ever thought, applying the rule that nothing can be created or destroyed, where did our consciousness come from? Where does it go when we die? How did we (all living things) become conscious, living organisms from gas and rock? Sure, there's tons of theories and scapegoats that say, "well, this bacteria did this and this did this." But Nobody can really explain how consciousness came in to being. Life springing from inanimate objects. It's fucking insane to think about. Imagine being able to replicate that? Creating life from seemingly nothing? I don't mean cloning and stupid shit from cells we've already got. I mean creation.


We actually have done and observed this. Not consciousness coming into being but life coming from inanimate objects.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-urey_experiment


Even though that's really cool and I didn't know an experiment like that took place, I'm not sure it's the same as what I mean. Sure they propagated life, but did they really create it?


I'm not sure, I haven't read it very in-depth yet.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Sep 30th, '12, 01:48

classthe_king wrote:For us to be able to observe a universe, it has to exist in such a way that it is suited for us to be able to survive in it. Our observations will then of course show that the universe appears to have been formed in such a way so as to make life possible out of necessity, because if it were not we would not have been able to exist here in the first place..



that's all , this is all i needed..

thanks for your input :b:



oh and for a scientific evidence , read this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_BBRQsBnJA
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Sep 30th, '12, 17:17

Le Tunisien wrote:oh and for a scientific evidence , read this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_BBRQsBnJA


Whoever made that video is an absolute moron and I would not listen to a word he said. :laughing:
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Sep 30th, '12, 20:54

classthe_king wrote:
Le Tunisien wrote:oh and for a scientific evidence , read this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_BBRQsBnJA


Whoever made that video is an absolute moron and I would not listen to a word he said. :laughing:

see? you are out of the debate :y:
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