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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Oct 1st, '12, 04:07

Le Tunisien wrote:class : dude the point is it was mentionned in the quran, and why dont they mix? cuz god made a barrier..and muhammad cannot explain the passage he was told , he just deliver it to people as the words were delivered to him...and a long time after that in the modern science they found out about that barrier as i explained..think about it


Who cares if it was mentioned? There was no science whatsoever in what he said. All he said was there was a barrier, any retard who's not blind can see that there's a barrier. That's not science and that's not ahead of his time. And they don't mix because the two seas have different densities, not because god made a barrier. See, now we know exactly how it happens so we don't need to make up some shit about god making a barrier. That's what science is.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Oct 1st, '12, 04:22

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lol read more about it and you will find out , maybe i didnt explain it in the right way but let me give you other examples then.......well, Qur'an having prophesied scientific theories and discoveries has become strong and widespread ; these prophecies are often provided as a proof of the divine origin of the Qur'an,scientific facts exist in the Qur'an in many different subjects, including creation, astronomy, human reproduction, oceanology, embroyology, zoology, the water cycle, and many more.
and it is based on the passages in the Qur'an which states: "Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then We parted them and we made every living thing of water? Will they not then believe?"[Quran 21:30] the first part of the verse is referring to the Big Bang and the second part of the verse clearly refers to the fact that all living things are made of water since and water being a necessary component for life which is proven by science also. Furthermore, the Qur'an also refers to the protective properties of the atmosphere when it says, “We made the sky a preserved and protected roof yet still they turn away from Our Signs.”[Quran 21:32] In addition to this, the Qur'an mentions the rotation and orbit of the Sun and the Moon when it states, "It is He who created the night and the day, and the sun, and the moon; each of them swim along in its rounded course."[Quran 21:33][14]
"a time is fixed for every prophecy; you will come to know in time".[Quran 6:67] and that verse refers to the scientific facts in the Qur'an that would be discovered by the world in modern time, centuries after the revelation.

so back in that era, there is no way muhammad could have written those lines..but of course god delivered these passages to the prophet muhammad.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Oct 1st, '12, 04:34

Are you serious dude?

Le Tunisien wrote:Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then We parted them


You're going from that to he's referring to the big bang? That's just another extremely vague statement that you could twist to get it to apply to anything you wanted. If it was about the Big Bang why didn't he explain how the big bang actually happened?

and we made every living thing of water? Will they not then believe?"[/b][Quran 21:30]


We knew that all living things contained water all the way back to the days of the egyptians, possibly before that so this means nothing.

“We made the sky a preserved and protected roof yet still they turn away from Our Signs.”[Quran 21:32]


Another vague statement that you could apply to anything. Did he explain how the atmosphere works and about each of the different layers and what they're composed of? Of course not.

"It is He who created the night and the day, and the sun, and the moon; each of them swim along in its rounded course."[Quran 21:33][14]


Umm, we knew that the planets and the moon all move long before the Quran was written, you can see it in the sky. Also, the sun DOESN'T move around in a course. It only appears that way because of our orbit and it moves through our sky. This only further proves my point.


so back in that era, there is no way muhammad could have written those lines..but of course god delivered these passages to the prophet muhammad.


There is no way any sensible person can reach that conclusion.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Oct 1st, '12, 04:57

ok ill give you more passages then, even though you will always try to prove me wrong but okay ill give you more passages..more scientific proofs,

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Allah Almighty Said: "And when the heaven splitteth asunder and becometh ROSY LIKE PAINT - (The Noble Quran, 55:37)"
What Allah Almighty is Saying here is that when Galaxies explode, they form a rose-shaped explosion. He is also telling us that the Universe will all turn into exploded galaxies looking like roses when the Day of Judgment happens

i can give you COUNTLESS pictures of exploded galaxies that look like roses if you want.


The Holy Quran and Islam are filled with scientific statements and notions. now here are statements of Allah Almighty describing how He created things on earth and in the Universe. What's most amazing is that all of these scientific statements and notions had been proven to be in perfect agreement with science and our modern-day scientific discoveries. Allah Almighty made the Noble Quran be Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon him) Everlasting Divine Miracle and proof for Prophethood. The Holy Book certainly stood the test of time 1,500 years ago with Its Claims, Prophecies and Miraculous language eloquence, and it does again and again in our day today with Its overwhelming agreement with science and discoveries that were not known to man 1,500 years ago.


so, lets ask

What forms in the embryo first, the muscles or the bones?

Answer: According to the Glorious Quran and Science, the creation of the bones and muscles happens relatively almost at the same time; "adjacently" to each others. But, the formation of the bones happens before the muscles are wrapped around them.

With this said, let us now look at the following Noble Verse from the Holy Quran:

Noble Verse(s) 23:12-23:14

[023:012] Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay);

[023:013] Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;
[023:014] Then We made the sperm into a leech-like substance; then of that leech-like substance We made a fetus of a chewed-like substance; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be God, the best to create.



and i will let you analyze it youself and see if you understood it.....






but here is what i say,

Indeed, god's perfect description of the shapes (leech-like and chewed-like substances), and the timings of the different stages and developments that the fetus goes through from conception to birth testify that the Noble Quran is indeed the Divine Truth and Pure and Holy Word of Allah Almighty.

As the question says "What forms in the embryo first, the muscles or the bones?", it is clear that during and after the chewed-like (mudghah) stage, both bones and muscles form adjacently. However, the wrapping of the muscles around the bones happens after the muscle precursor cells begin their development into muscle. Notice how Allah Almighty referred to the precursors' development and the wrapping of the muscles around the bones in Noble Verse 23:14 by Saying:


"then we clothed the bones with flesh."

Why did Allah Almighty specifically choose to say (then we clothed)? It is because the Noble Verse wasn't speaking about which was created first, the bones or the muscles, but rather, it was speaking about the wrapping of the muscles around the bones happens after the creation of the the bones.
yep that passage was written way back then in that era and muhammad was illeterate
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Eedee » Oct 1st, '12, 07:26

Le Tunisien wrote:ok ill give you more passages then, even though you will always try to prove me wrong but okay ill give you more passages..more scientific proofs,

read the description under the picture:

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Allah Almighty Said: "And when the heaven splitteth asunder and becometh ROSY LIKE PAINT - (The Noble Quran, 55:37)"
What Allah Almighty is Saying here is that when Galaxies explode, they form a rose-shaped explosion. He is also telling us that the Universe will all turn into exploded galaxies looking like roses when the Day of Judgment happens

i can give you COUNTLESS pictures of exploded galaxies that look like roses if you want.





Umm, this is a nebula. An exploded star. NOT an exploded galaxy. Get your facts right, son. :laughing:

Also, not all nebulae are rosy like paint (red). Some are blue, green, etc. Why didn't the Qu'ran say that as well?
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Eedee » Oct 1st, '12, 07:29

InsaneTRex94 wrote:Didn't realize how old this thread was. But lol Eedee.


Yeah, that part of his argument is thrown out the window right there :laughing:
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby AbramIsaac » Oct 1st, '12, 11:39

Oh, god...
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Oct 1st, '12, 12:35

Do you just not get it? My last three posts can all be applied to your last post as well.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby SajN » Oct 1st, '12, 13:07

Le Tunisien wrote:ok ill give you more passages then, even though you will always try to prove me wrong but okay ill give you more passages..more scientific proofs,

read the description under the picture:

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Allah Almighty Said: "And when the heaven splitteth asunder and becometh ROSY LIKE PAINT - (The Noble Quran, 55:37)"
What Allah Almighty is Saying here is that when Galaxies explode, they form a rose-shaped explosion. He is also telling us that the Universe will all turn into exploded galaxies looking like roses when the Day of Judgment happens

i can give you COUNTLESS pictures of exploded galaxies that look like roses if you want.


The Holy Quran and Islam are filled with scientific statements and notions. now here are statements of Allah Almighty describing how He created things on earth and in the Universe. What's most amazing is that all of these scientific statements and notions had been proven to be in perfect agreement with science and our modern-day scientific discoveries. Allah Almighty made the Noble Quran be Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon him) Everlasting Divine Miracle and proof for Prophethood. The Holy Book certainly stood the test of time 1,500 years ago with Its Claims, Prophecies and Miraculous language eloquence, and it does again and again in our day today with Its overwhelming agreement with science and discoveries that were not known to man 1,500 years ago.


so, lets ask

What forms in the embryo first, the muscles or the bones?

Answer: According to the Glorious Quran and Science, the creation of the bones and muscles happens relatively almost at the same time; "adjacently" to each others. But, the formation of the bones happens before the muscles are wrapped around them.

With this said, let us now look at the following Noble Verse from the Holy Quran:

Noble Verse(s) 23:12-23:14

[023:012] Man We did create from a quintessence (of clay);

[023:013] Then We placed him as (a drop of) sperm in a place of rest, firmly fixed;
[023:014] Then We made the sperm into a leech-like substance; then of that leech-like substance We made a fetus of a chewed-like substance; then we made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh; then we developed out of it another creature. So blessed be God, the best to create.



and i will let you analyze it youself and see if you understood it.....






but here is what i say,

Indeed, god's perfect description of the shapes (leech-like and chewed-like substances), and the timings of the different stages and developments that the fetus goes through from conception to birth testify that the Noble Quran is indeed the Divine Truth and Pure and Holy Word of Allah Almighty.

As the question says "What forms in the embryo first, the muscles or the bones?", it is clear that during and after the chewed-like (mudghah) stage, both bones and muscles form adjacently. However, the wrapping of the muscles around the bones happens after the muscle precursor cells begin their development into muscle. Notice how Allah Almighty referred to the precursors' development and the wrapping of the muscles around the bones in Noble Verse 23:14 by Saying:


"then we clothed the bones with flesh."

Why did Allah Almighty specifically choose to say (then we clothed)? It is because the Noble Verse wasn't speaking about which was created first, the bones or the muscles, but rather, it was speaking about the wrapping of the muscles around the bones happens after the creation of the the bones.
yep that passage was written way back then in that era and muhammad was illeterate

Why have you copied and pasted so much from another page, and not explained in your own words?
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Oct 1st, '12, 14:14

lol sajn do it for me ..im just tired of explaining..but i know one thing, we'll never convince each others cuz like i know,i would never be convinced that god doesnt exist cuz i know he does..i also know that he will never be convinced that god does exist cuz he thinks he doesnt exist..
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby SajN » Oct 1st, '12, 14:21

Why would I do it for you? I don't believe in god.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Oct 1st, '12, 15:27

SajN wrote:Why would I do it for you? I don't believe in god.

lol ok then like the quran said

Say : O ye that reject Faith!

I worship not that which ye worship,

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,

Nor will ye worship that which I worship.

To you be your Way, and to me mine.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Oct 1st, '12, 15:33

Le Tunisien wrote:lol sajn do it for me ..im just tired of explaining..but i know one thing, we'll never convince each others cuz like i know,i would never be convinced that god doesnt exist cuz i know he does..i also know that he will never be convinced that god does exist cuz he thinks he doesnt exist..


I don't care if you believe in a god or not. The difference is that even though you say you know he does exist you have no evidence to support that opinion and you refuse to change that. I simply reject that a god exists, although I would absolutely change my mind about that if sufficient evidence was provided.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Oct 1st, '12, 15:49

classthe_king wrote:
Le Tunisien wrote:lol sajn do it for me ..im just tired of explaining..but i know one thing, we'll never convince each others cuz like i know,i would never be convinced that god doesnt exist cuz i know he does..i also know that he will never be convinced that god does exist cuz he thinks he doesnt exist..


I don't care if you believe in a god or not. The difference is that even though you say you know he does exist you have no evidence to support that opinion and you refuse to change that. I simply reject that a god exists, although I would absolutely change my mind about that if sufficient evidence was provided.

you have to walk on earth and look around and you'll find that out by yourself then .
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Oct 1st, '12, 15:51

Le Tunisien wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
Le Tunisien wrote:lol sajn do it for me ..im just tired of explaining..but i know one thing, we'll never convince each others cuz like i know,i would never be convinced that god doesnt exist cuz i know he does..i also know that he will never be convinced that god does exist cuz he thinks he doesnt exist..


I don't care if you believe in a god or not. The difference is that even though you say you know he does exist you have no evidence to support that opinion and you refuse to change that. I simply reject that a god exists, although I would absolutely change my mind about that if sufficient evidence was provided.

you have to walk on earth and look around and you'll find that out by yourself then .


That doesn't mean anything.
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