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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Oct 1st, '12, 16:03

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well i know why i'm here i know why humans exist...why would you just live then wilt like a flower without asking shit..you'r a human god gave you a brain to think with it..why arent we like animals? whats the difference between us humans and the other creature? is that we have a brain that can think and understand shit..and alot more developped then any other creature but why? why are we different...why is everything so perfect? why do you have a nose to breathe with, eyes to see with...why is their air for us to breathe in order to survive....who set up all that system?? who set up all the galaxies and all this life ? seriously? it just came up like that? nature created its beauty by itself? really? is that how you think? i mean really..you just believe that you are born then you live and then you just die and there is nothing behind the human creation? you believe that u'r like a flower you just live then you wilt and thats it? ...
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Oct 1st, '12, 16:07

Le Tunisien wrote:@class
well i know why i'm here i know why humans exist...why would you just live then wilt like a flower without asking shit..you'r a human god gave you a brain to think with it..why arent we like animals? whats the differents between us humans and the other creature? is that we a brain that can think and understand shit..but why? why are we different...why is everything so perfect? why do you have a nose to breathe with, eyes to see with...why is their air for us to breathe in order to survive....who set up all that system?? who set up all the galaxies and all this life ? seriously? it just came up like that? nature created its beauty by itself? really? is that how you think? i mean really..you just believe that you are born then you live and then you just die and there is nothing behind the human creation? you believe that u'r like a flower you just live then you wilt and thats it? ...


Yes that's exactly what I believe. I already told you that everything appears to be perfect because we can only live in a universe that can support life, if it couldn't support life we wouldn't be here. In reality it's far from perfect, there are many flaws in the human body and a myriad of things that can kill us all the time. The difference between us and animals is that during our evolutionary process we developed a frontal lobe and other animals didn't. Everything in nature can be explained without the need to appeal to a god. To do so is without reason and illogical. When you die you're gone and that's it, the sooner you come to terms with that the better.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Oct 1st, '12, 16:15

classthe_king wrote:
Le Tunisien wrote:@class
well i know why i'm here i know why humans exist...why would you just live then wilt like a flower without asking shit..you'r a human god gave you a brain to think with it..why arent we like animals? whats the differents between us humans and the other creature? is that we a brain that can think and understand shit..but why? why are we different...why is everything so perfect? why do you have a nose to breathe with, eyes to see with...why is their air for us to breathe in order to survive....who set up all that system?? who set up all the galaxies and all this life ? seriously? it just came up like that? nature created its beauty by itself? really? is that how you think? i mean really..you just believe that you are born then you live and then you just die and there is nothing behind the human creation? you believe that u'r like a flower you just live then you wilt and thats it? ...


Yes that's exactly what I believe. I already told you that everything appears to be perfect because we can only live in a universe that can support life, if it couldn't support life we wouldn't be here. In reality it's far from perfect, there are many flaws in the human body and a myriad of things that can kill us all the time. The difference between us and animals is that during our evolutionary process we developed a frontal lobe and other animals didn't. Everything in nature can be explained without the need to appeal to a god. To do so is without reason and illogical. When you die you're gone and that's it, the sooner you come to terms with that the better.

you said " can only live in a universe that can support life, if it couldn't support life we wouldn't be here" EXACTLY, like you said if it couldnt support life we wouldnt be here......but we'r here and the question is ..WHO made it support life? who created that system to make it able to support life?...Really it just created itself like that ..really? ehhh
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Oct 1st, '12, 16:24

Le Tunisien wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
Le Tunisien wrote:@class
well i know why i'm here i know why humans exist...why would you just live then wilt like a flower without asking shit..you'r a human god gave you a brain to think with it..why arent we like animals? whats the differents between us humans and the other creature? is that we a brain that can think and understand shit..but why? why are we different...why is everything so perfect? why do you have a nose to breathe with, eyes to see with...why is their air for us to breathe in order to survive....who set up all that system?? who set up all the galaxies and all this life ? seriously? it just came up like that? nature created its beauty by itself? really? is that how you think? i mean really..you just believe that you are born then you live and then you just die and there is nothing behind the human creation? you believe that u'r like a flower you just live then you wilt and thats it? ...


Yes that's exactly what I believe. I already told you that everything appears to be perfect because we can only live in a universe that can support life, if it couldn't support life we wouldn't be here. In reality it's far from perfect, there are many flaws in the human body and a myriad of things that can kill us all the time. The difference between us and animals is that during our evolutionary process we developed a frontal lobe and other animals didn't. Everything in nature can be explained without the need to appeal to a god. To do so is without reason and illogical. When you die you're gone and that's it, the sooner you come to terms with that the better.

you said " can only live in a universe that can support life, if it couldn't support life we wouldn't be here" EXACTLY, like you said if it couldnt support life we wouldnt be here......but we'r here and the question is ..WHO made it support life? who created that system to make it able to support life?...Really it just created itself like that ..really? ehhh


Why does there have to be a who? That's ridiculous. It didn't create itself, it just happened to form in a way to support life and the reason we know that is because we're the life it supports. Like I said earlier, a sentient puddle that exists in a pothole might think that the pothole was so perfectly formed to hold it that it must have been designed that way. However, we know it wasn't.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Oct 1st, '12, 17:17

classthe_king wrote:
Why does there have to be a who?
it just happened to form in a way to support life


i completely disagree with that statement .
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Oct 1st, '12, 17:47

Le Tunisien wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
Why does there have to be a who?
it just happened to form in a way to support life


i completely disagree with that statement .


And what evidence do you have to support that?
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Oct 1st, '12, 20:25

classthe_king wrote:
Le Tunisien wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
Why does there have to be a who?
it just happened to form in a way to support life


i completely disagree with that statement .


And what evidence do you have to support that?

nothin can just happen like that
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Oct 1st, '12, 20:31

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Le Tunisien wrote:nothin can just happen like that

You deserve a Nobel Prize

i mean he said, it just happened like that ( all this univers and all this system that we live in was just created like that somehow )

all that just happened , as simple as that , really? what could support his argument?
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Eedee » Oct 1st, '12, 20:35

Le Tunisien wrote:
InsaneTRex94 wrote:
Le Tunisien wrote:nothin can just happen like that

You deserve a Nobel Prize

i mean he said, it just happened like that ( all this univers and all this system that we live in was just created like that somehow )

all that just happened , as simple as that , really? what could support his argument?


What the fuck are you babbling on about?

All of this didn't just happen one day. We know exactly how the galaxies formed and the solar system and the planets. It was shaped by the laws of physics and gravity and natural phenomena. Where did those come from? They came into existence the time the universe did. What created the universe? We don't know. We're figuring it out, but plugging in God to the gaps in our knowledge doesn't solve anything. It only shows your ignorance more and how you're comfortable with not knowing and that's pathetic.

Where did God come from? What can support your argument? Exactly. Plugging God in to a gap is fucking retarded.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Oct 1st, '12, 20:37

Le Tunisien wrote:nothin can just happen like that


So you, Le Tunisien of Trshady, can know that nothing can just happen like that over 80% of the greatest scientists in the world do believe that it happened exactly like that. Please share the knowledge you have that all those scientists don't have :flutter:

And I believe that there is a 99.99999% chance that there is life on other planets somewhere but I think if a god were real then that number would be 100%. Why would god make all those planets just to put life on one? That makes no sense.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Trimss » Oct 1st, '12, 20:38

classthe_king wrote:
Le Tunisien wrote:nothin can just happen like that

And I believe that there is a 99.99999% chance that there is life on other planets somewhere but I think if a god were real then that number would be 100%. Why would god make all those planets just to put life on one? That makes no sense.


Actually, I agree with you.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Oct 1st, '12, 20:41

InsaneTRex94 wrote:My belief is basically the Big Bang Theory. But I believe something was there that had to trigger the events of it (God), and after that, everything happened naturally.
To me and my religion, God is less of an entity or some person or whatever, and more of just a natural force. Again, it's a scientific religion.





I'm not good at explaining my beliefs. This was a bullshit response.


So you're a Spinozist?
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Oct 1st, '12, 20:43

InsaneTRex94 wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
InsaneTRex94 wrote:My belief is basically the Big Bang Theory. But I believe something was there that had to trigger the events of it (God), and after that, everything happened naturally.
To me and my religion, God is less of an entity or some person or whatever, and more of just a natural force. Again, it's a scientific religion.





I'm not good at explaining my beliefs. This was a bullshit response.


So you're a Spinozist?

Sikh.


Ohhhh I see
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Oct 1st, '12, 21:20

classthe_king wrote:
Le Tunisien wrote:nothin can just happen like that


So you, Le Tunisien of Trshady, can know that nothing can just happen like that over 80% of the greatest scientists in the world do believe that it happened exactly like that. Please share the knowledge you have that all those scientists don't have :flutter:

And I believe that there is a 99.99999% chance that there is life on other planets somewhere but I think if a god were real then that number would be 100%. Why would god make all those planets just to put life on one? That makes no sense.

well you'r wrong cuz god never said that he put life on one actually there are other earth like planets that we havent been able yet to reach em and to find out wether there is life there or not, so According to an article on Discovery.com, the Kepler Space Telescope has discovered numerous earth-like planets ranging in size from twice the size of earth to smaller. So, rather than being the only world capable of supporting life, as previously thought, it is beginning to look like the universe(s) ) is teaming with such planets. But, the Qur'an had already told us that this was true 1,400 years ago. The Qur'an states: "Allah it is who hath created seven heavens, and of the earth the like thereof. The commandment cometh down among them slowly, that ye may know that Allah is Able to do all things, and that Allah surroundeth all things in knowledge" (Qur'an 65:12)
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Oct 1st, '12, 21:26

Hage wrote:my own theory is that at one point there were 2 particles which are only temporary existent( so they appear and dissapear) collided, this being nearly impossible created the big bang which created the higgsboson field. The higgsboson field created mass and i don't really know how to explain the rest of my theory in english without looking like a retard

I don't do physics so don't judge me on my theory :flower:

here is what quran says about it :

" Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?" Quran 30
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