RZA vs Dr. Dre

[tadpole25]

No doubt that these are the two biggest producer in hiphop, and each of them were founders of two of the most influential and acclaimed rap groups: Wu-Tang Clan and N.W.A.

RZA

Production Style: Much of RZA's beats are sampled from ninja kung fu movies, but he samples lightly. His beats are smooth, simple, catchy, but are not overly involved to the point where it perfectly compliments the lyrical members of the Wu Tang Clan. The sheer amount of variety in his beats, coupled with the fact that many of his best productions were low-budget shows how versatile and skillful of a producer he is.

Rapping Style: While RZA doesn't have the smooth delivery or the eccentricity that the other members do, he is, by his own merits, a great lyricist. His lyrics are uniquely complex with many syllables and a large vocabulary, delivered at varying speeds. Sometimes abrasive, but overall, full of passion.

Proteges (production advanced the careers of): Almost all Wu-Tang solo efforts

Dr. Dre

Production Style: His beats are rich, deep, heavy, meant to be thumped on a bass speaker. From the 90's, his synthesized beats, from NWA to 2001, created a unique sound in his albums. In the 2000's, his production for Eminem and 50 Cent would prove to be not just beats which could be danced to at a club, but Dre can effectively create the dark gloomy horror imagery which compliments Eminem's rap style.

Rapping Style: His deep heavy voice adds the weight to his beats. Though he relies heavily on ghostwriting, he delivers whatever is written to him well.

Proteges (production advanced the careers of) : Eminem, Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent, The Game

My thoughts. Dre had some tracks that could blow any other productions out of the water and has acheived productions values even RZA couldn't reach up to, but overall, I think RZA had a larger variety and a larger number of well produced songs. So I call it a tie, at least until I can decide.
Your thoughts?

[PAINKILLƎR]

I give Dre a slight edge over RZA

[tadpole25]

yea in an eminem forum, i'd expect dre to win.

not that its overly biased because dre is an amazing producer as is rza

[Almostlity]

RZA gets my vote. His beats are just so fucking good.

[Trimss]

They're both fucking amazing producers if you ask me.

[King Lance]

great producer vs greatest producer . > vote for Dre

[LIL_B]

RZA and it's not even close.

[tadpole25]

I vote in favor of RZA, because him being a great lyricist gives the edge over Dre

[classthe_king]

I vote in favor of RZA, because him being a great lyricist gives the edge over Dre

Has nothing to do with production.

Dre.

He didn't say the thread was only about production.

[PAINKILLƎR]

If it's overall, then it's RZA

[flyingmonkey10]

Rzarector, Zig Zag Zig Allah, Bobby Digital
RZA son.

I love dre and his beats fucking BANG, both producers beats are so incredibly unique and leave an impact, but RZA is more of a crazy motherfucker than Dre is. Dre WAS a gangsta nigga

[dead prez]

Madlib

[Blu]

Have to go with RZA.

And btw...to who called Dre the "greatest producer"...smh