EminemBase vs. Blu - God

[classthe_king]

The main problem with religious people is they are constantly getting fact and opinion confused.

the same goes for you yoo , and all the atheists

No. That's the thing. You can say the same goes for atheists as much as you want but it's not true lol

[AbramIsaac]

The reason it's different for atheists is because if there was definitive proof for God, they would alter their beliefs.

There is no way to disprove something that can't be seen, heard, felt, or detected in any way at all to people who have faith that it is there. That's the difference between the religious and the atheists.

[Le Tunisien]

The reason it's different for atheists is because if there was definitive proof for God, they would alter their beliefs.

There is no way to disprove something that can't be seen, heard, felt, or detected in any way at all to people who have faith that it is there. That's the difference between the religious and the atheists.

cant be felt? i feel that god exists, i know it

[Eedee]

I feel that god doesn't exist, i know it. Explain that

Why don't you explain it, they're your feelings or rather lack thereof.

He was saying it's ridiculous when religious people say "I just know God exists. I can feel it" and that's their evidence...

[Eedee]

There's a paranormal invisible dragon in my garage. I can feel it. He warms my heart.

It's just as preposterous.

Btw - has there been a thread for ghosts in this section yet? I personally don't think they're real but I'd like to know what others think.

[Eedee]

No I'm not. I can feel the dragon, Menzo. His fire breath warms my heart. He lives in my garage. Except you can't touch him because he'll move. You can't see him because he's invisible and is ethereal and can't be picked up with any heat or X-ray sensors.

Oh, and if you don't believe in him, you're going to burn in his raging stomach acid for all eternity when you die.

^ That is basically what Christians do when they said "I can feel God. He's in my heart. If you don't feel him too you're going to Hell".

[classthe_king]

It's always a lot harder for people to see / accept things they don't want to believe in. Ever been in a relationship with a questionable girl? Your good friends start telling you things they've heard about her while at the same time she's starting to distance herself awkwardly and you can see a break-up in the horizon but something tells you that it's not true? I guess it can be like that.

No one doesn't want to believe in god I'm pretty sure anyone would choose a world where god/heaven was real over a universe where there wasn't.

[Eedee]

The whole point is that atheists are willing to believe as long as there is sufficient evidence of a god's existence.. You really think people will remain atheist if there is real 100% proof and no way to argue about it ? no. Too bad we probaly won't live long enough to see science figure it out

Philosophically, there's no way to prove God's existence since he's out of the realm of evidence and proof. If we're going by the philosophical definition of God, we should ALL be agnostics. However, we have science.

Science can (and has) disprove religious claims found in holy books, like the age of the Earth, the Big Bang, where humans came from, etc.

[classthe_king]

Speaker on behalf of mankind? Nah lol.

Umm yes? You're an idiot if you think any rational human would choose disappearing forever and ceasing to exist over going to heaven with all your loved ones for eternity.

[Eedee]

My mother and my ex-girlfriend have all said those exact words (well, that exact sentiment) to me when we've talked about my atheism.

It's a real thing. Just because you haven't heard it from anyone doesn't mean no one has said it.

[classthe_king]

>Tries to argue with Class
>Realizes is wrong and has no argument
>Tries to play it off with sarcasm

[classthe_king]

>Tries to argue with Class
>Realizes is wrong and has no argument
>Tries to play it off with sarcasm

>Been ether'd by Block countless times
>Uses Block's method

Lol.

I've seen you argue, you're literally the biggest waste of time on the forum - always have and always will be, what you said was wrong but I'm not gonna bother with you because you'll just respond with disagreement and a complimentary "lulz".

>Thinks I got ethered by Block
>Thinks Block was the first person to use green text
>Is pissed because he can't outsmart me on any topics so he constantly backs down

[classthe_king]

Lol.

We weren't arguing, but okaaaay Gollum.

But if I have to disprove your point, I'll say that there are a lot of people who don't like the idea of a god. They're uncomfortable with thinking their purpose in life is to appease to an omnipresent deity. I know people like that, my cousin is like that - therefore your acceptance on being the speaker of mankind is 100% wrong.

And believing in God / a god / a creator isn't connotative with Christianity's advertised afterlife - you're interweaving two different concepts. You can believe in God / a god / a creator but disagree with the way it is presented - in fact, I've seen people here say that.

I obviously didn't mean 100%, there are obviously exceptions. And I'm not making broad statements, I'm talking about Christianity. You said that people don't feel god because they don't want to believe in him and I'm saying that's ridiculous. The vast majority of atheists started out as Christians (in america), which means they did believe in him their whole childhood. Why did they not "feel" him then? Did they just wake up one day and decide they didn't want a god to be real so they stopped "feeling" him? It's all very stupid.

[classthe_king]

But your claims that my ridiculous claim is wrong because I have physical evidence of people who support my point.

Seeing as you're an atheist, you scrutinize things from a stern, uninterpretable standpoint and I'll apply that logic when we discuss things - it's only fair. So if you don't mean 100%, don't say it like you do

So 100% of all atheists scrutinize things from a stern, uninterpretable standpoint? I can find many that don't.

Don't call me out for doing the same thing you do in that very post. Also thank you for not replying to the rest of my post.

[classthe_king]

My point on atheists is incorrect? You guys like stone cold facts, stop lying Unless you're agnostic? Which means you're just a huge bandwagoner - who is your favourite sports team, "The winning one". Lmao...totally irrelevant on my part, I know.

There is nothing to say about the rest of your point, you're probably right. A lot of atheists were born into a faith, that isn't incorrect.

I would have never made that point if not for the context. And not 100% of atheists love stone cold facts, I'm sure I could find one that doesn't. However, I do. And no I'm not agnostic, that's just copping out.

And don't you think saying that atheists love facts says a little something about religion? lol