EminemBase vs. Blu - God

[classthe_king]

who are you pwning? you have no argument either, what evidence do you have that would suggest God doesn't exist? you chose to believe he doesn't exist because of the lack that proves he does, but there isn't evidence that would suggest he doesn't

The evidence that he doesn't exist IS the fact that there is no evidence that he exists. That's all you need. The burden of proof is on the people making the claim that something exists. It's impossible to prove that anything doesn't exist.

[Le Tunisien]

who are you pwning? you have no argument either, what evidence do you have that would suggest God doesn't exist? you chose to believe he doesn't exist because of the lack that proves he does, but there isn't evidence that would suggest he doesn't

The evidence that he doesn't exist IS the fact that there is no evidence that he exists. That's all you need. The burden of proof is on the people making the claim that something exists. It's impossible to prove that anything doesn't exist.

well its easier to just say that he doesnt exist cuz you dont see him ...but thats the thing..god is too powerful and alot greater than the whole universe for you to be able to ever see him...did you ever wonder why we are created? why wasnt it just empty no humans at all ? no life , no NOTHING??
why are there creatures? so MANY types of creature?? why are there humans who can actually think and be like wow the nature is too awesome its creator is amazing! well because thats the purpose thats why god created the whole universe the whole life system cuz thats what he wanted...he wanted people to actually recognize his power and praise him and actually thank god.

Though God hasn't given us proof, he has placed enough evidence in the world for people to believe in him (Rom 1:18-20). Romans 1:20 states, "Since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities...have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made." How is this so? People throughout history have seen both the power and beauty of nature. Questions such as "How did the stars get in the sky?" lead naturally to "Is there someone who created the universe and controls it?" And once someone asks that question, they need only ask God to reveal himself to be given what further evidence they may need to believe (Mt 7:7-8)

[classthe_king]

[Le Tunisien]

you'r ridiculous, im done talking to people like you

[classthe_king]

you'r ridiculous, im done talking to people like you

I think my response already implied I was done talking to you

[classthe_king]

who are you pwning? you have no argument either, what evidence do you have that would suggest God doesn't exist? you chose to believe he doesn't exist because of the lack that proves he does, but there isn't evidence that would suggest he doesn't

The evidence that he doesn't exist IS the fact that there is no evidence that he exists. That's all you need. The burden of proof is on the people making the claim that something exists. It's impossible to prove that anything doesn't exist.

The universe coming into existence from nothing is impossible and you know it

But god coming into existence from nothing isn't impossible?

[ChristinaE12]

And the Almighty coming from nothing is possible? Came from something too right..

[classthe_king]

God is eternal and has always existed

Alright, well I think that the universe has always existed.

[classthe_king]

God is eternal and has always existed

Alright, well I think that the universe has always existed.

Except you don't

Except I do, I've already said that multiple times in this thread.

[classthe_king]

The universe is coming to an end, therefore it can't be eternal

I'm sorry, are you an astrophysicist and nobody told me? Who are you to say what can or can't be with the universe?

[classthe_king]

The universe is coming to an end, therefore it can't be eternal

I'm sorry, are you an astrophysicist and nobody told me? Who are you to say what can or can't be with the universe?

Settle down Bertha, my bad I didnt realize you were

I'm not making definitive statements about the universe and what can or can't happen.

[CrashBand]

@Rise.

A god does nothing to solve the problem with 'The universe coming into existence from nothing is impossible and you know it". You're kicking the can back.

It's not giving anything to your argument. It's such a fucking strawman.

[classthe_king]

Well, it's all a philosophy now, science still didn't reach the point of finding out "where did the universe come from" or "where did God come from", so we'll never know, but people are always looking for the next part of the trails, "God created the universe" is a more inclusive argument than "The universe always existed" which makes it the end of the rope, there isn't a theory on where did God come from, but let's just say "God always existed" so that we can be a little ahead, since Universe < God.

That's just some theoretical thinking though, but I mean, if we try and trail everything, we'll eventually fall short at some point, where did apples come from? Trees, where did trees come from? Seeds, where did seeds come from? The universe, where did the universe come from? Atheists and religious people split here with two answers, A)The universe always existed. B)God created the universe... Some may wonder then, hmm, where did God come from?

Nobody was able to prove where did the universe come from, so why would they be able to prove where did God come from? Can we use the same argument to claim that there is no real universe and the only real celestial objects are the ones who were actually discovered by astromeners with believable evidence and there is no such thing as a never-ending space, more of a bounded space that we're too underdeveloped to reach the end of? Then what does the end of look like?

"We'll never find out".

It's not a philosophical argument. We don't know where the universe came from YET, but we will. Saying that god made the universe just so that we can be a little ahead is moronic because then that puts a block on progress. Just because we don't know doesn't mean we can just make up any random reason and regard it as true. We know the universe exists because we're living in it and can observe it, so that should be the end of what we say exists. Putting a god in there is pointless and adds nothing to our understanding. We've never needed him to explain anything up until that point of our understand so using him now would be counterproductive. The god of the gaps argument is bogus and that's what you're using right now.

[classthe_king]

Even if scientists find out how the universe came into existence, that doesnt disprove God, it only explains how God created the universe.

I can't deal with these people anymore

It's like they're choosing to be ignorant and ignore the multiple posts where I've already proved the argument they're making wrong.

[classthe_king]

Even if scientists find out how the universe came into existence, that doesnt disprove God, it only explains how God created the universe.

I can't deal with these people anymore

It's like they're choosing to be ignorant and ignore the multiple posts where I've already proved the argument they're making wrong.

you proved what? hahaha you're hilarious dude, you already admitted in the other thread you didnt know so stfu kid

Exactly, WE DON'T KNOW. So don't make up bullshit like a god when there's no reason to.