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EminemBase vs. Blu - God

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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Eedee » Oct 13th, '12, 23:28

Fleka wrote:The problem is not the question of God`s existence. Faith is a great thing, often the only thing that makes a man or a woman fight through tough times. The problem is the way people are using God. God is becoming a brand, a bussiness. And a tool for making someones interests happen. [Just remeber the Crusades. Or suicide bombers that blow up innocent people in the name of Allah.Yeah, God wants that. God has a price list for being a good beliver.


Faith is the reason they did these things. They believed that Allah would reward them in the afterlife for doing these things to those innocent people, I'm assuming you're talking about 9/11 here... They didn't do it because they used their God as shield, no. They did this SOLELY on their faith...
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Fleka » Oct 14th, '12, 00:03

^^Yeah, like I said, the problem is the way people are using God. Using faith. I never said they use God as a shield, but as a tool, a way of getting things done.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Le Tunisien » Oct 14th, '12, 04:12

Eedee wrote:
Fleka wrote:The problem is not the question of God`s existence. Faith is a great thing, often the only thing that makes a man or a woman fight through tough times. The problem is the way people are using God. God is becoming a brand, a bussiness. And a tool for making someones interests happen. [Just remeber the Crusades. Or suicide bombers that blow up innocent people in the name of Allah.Yeah, God wants that. God has a price list for being a good beliver.


Faith is the reason they did these things. They believed that Allah would reward them in the afterlife for doing these things to those innocent people, I'm assuming you're talking about 9/11 here... They didn't do it because they used their God as shield, no. They did this SOLELY on their faith...

stop being an ignorant , get your facts straight 9-11 was NOT done by the so called " Terrorists" go do some researches and find out by yourself, i thought you was more clever than that
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Eedee » Oct 14th, '12, 04:17

Le Tunisien wrote:
Eedee wrote:
Fleka wrote:The problem is not the question of God`s existence. Faith is a great thing, often the only thing that makes a man or a woman fight through tough times. The problem is the way people are using God. God is becoming a brand, a bussiness. And a tool for making someones interests happen. [Just remeber the Crusades. Or suicide bombers that blow up innocent people in the name of Allah.Yeah, God wants that. God has a price list for being a good beliver.


Faith is the reason they did these things. They believed that Allah would reward them in the afterlife for doing these things to those innocent people, I'm assuming you're talking about 9/11 here... They didn't do it because they used their God as shield, no. They did this SOLELY on their faith...

stop being an ignorant , get your facts straight 9-11 was NOT done by the so called " Terrorists" go do some researches and find out by yourself, i thought you was more clever than that


What the flying fuck are you talking about? :laughing:
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby CrashBand » Oct 14th, '12, 04:41

First of all, Le Tunisen, for your own sake, shut the fuck up.

You are literally an idiot if you don't think there are islamic extremists willing to blow themselves up for their faith. Regardless of what you think about 9/11.

Fleka wrote:The problem is not the question of God`s existence. Faith is a great thing


I fully disagree. Blind faith i.e. irrational thinking is not a 'great thing'. In fact, it is very far from that.

This is my main problem with religion that slightly differs from class's.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Fleka » Oct 14th, '12, 05:06

^^Believing in something is a good thing. When that faith goes too far, that is the problem. If idiots use the faith as an excuse for killing people, you can`t blame the faith for that. Just like always, people are the problem. Kids are being brainwashed with the stuff their God wants from them since they are born. They grow up in that enviroment and they don`t know better. Faith alone is good, the way we interprate it-that`s a whole other thing.

The same thing is when a disturbed guy hears satan saying "go and kill a bunch of people" in a song. Should we blame the music?
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby CrashBand » Oct 14th, '12, 05:10

I think irrational thinking and blind faith is fundamentally a bad thing. A very fucking bad thing.

And religion promotes this to the fullest.

Your analogy is ridiculously inaccurate, lmao.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Eedee » Oct 14th, '12, 05:12

Fleka wrote:^^Believing in something is a good thing. When that faith goes too far, that is the problem. If idiots use the faith as an excuse for killing people, you can`t blame the faith for that. Just like always, people are the problem. Kids are being brainwashed with the stuff their God wants from them since they are born. They grow up in that enviroment and they don`t know better. Faith alone is good, the way we interprate it-that`s a whole other thing.

The same thing is when a disturbed guy hears satan saying "go and kill a bunch of people" in a song. Should we blame the music?


Believing in something without evidence is not a good thing. It's a weakness.

And religion is to blame when someone says "God told me to kill my daughter" or w/e because the fucking Bible is full of shit like this, with God doing the mass murdering himself. It's disgusting. It's not a reach to say that believers read the Bible and think "God does this, it must be okay" and they do it themselves. Yes, they're probably fucked up to begin with but believing in God is tipping them over the edge.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Fleka » Oct 14th, '12, 05:22

On the other side, there is lots of examples of people doing great things in the name of God faith. Mother Teresa, Pope John Paul II...
So, you`re ridiculously inaccurate also.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Eedee » Oct 14th, '12, 05:24

Fleka wrote:On the other side, there is lots of examples of people doing great things in the name of God faith. Mother Teresa, Pope John Paul II...
So, you`re ridiculously inaccurate also.


Only because they think they'll be rewarded in the afterlife for it... sure there might be some part of them that actually care, but it's mostly because for their own selfish reasons.

How about the atheists who do good in this world only because they actually care? Bill Gates, for example.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Fleka » Oct 14th, '12, 05:27

Eedee wrote:
Fleka wrote:On the other side, there is lots of examples of people doing great things in the name of God faith. Mother Teresa, Pope John Paul II...
So, you`re ridiculously inaccurate also.


Only because they think they'll be rewarded in the afterlife for it... sure there might be some part of them that actually care, but it's mostly because for their own selfish reasons.

How about the atheists who do good in this world only because they actually care? Bill Gates, for example.


Bolded part is just stupid.
Underlined-you don`t need faith and God to be a great man.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby CrashBand » Oct 14th, '12, 05:32

you don`t need faith and God to be a great man
Glad you agree. :b:

But a great man needs religion / irrational thinking to be evil. :flower:
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Eedee » Oct 14th, '12, 05:34

Fleka wrote:
Eedee wrote:
Fleka wrote:On the other side, there is lots of examples of people doing great things in the name of God faith. Mother Teresa, Pope John Paul II...
So, you`re ridiculously inaccurate also.


Only because they think they'll be rewarded in the afterlife for it... sure there might be some part of them that actually care, but it's mostly because for their own selfish reasons.

How about the atheists who do good in this world only because they actually care? Bill Gates, for example.


Bolded part is just stupid.
Underlined-you don`t need faith and God to be a great man.


You just proved my point.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby Fleka » Oct 14th, '12, 05:40

^^No, I told that your theory about the people I named is stupid.
I already said here, I don`t really care about the religion. But I think that faith has it`s good sides, not just bad like you do.
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Re: EminemBase vs. Blu - God

Postby classthe_king » Oct 14th, '12, 05:44

Mother Teresa was a terrible person
You think your personal attacks make up for what you lack?
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