One of the best albums of 2003

[King Lance]

?????

rappers compliment each other all the time, but they don't say "you are the best ever" to each other all the time
the only time I heard kanye talking about "the best rapper ever" was when he talked about Eminem.
same for a lot of other rappers

[CrashBand]

I definitely don't think he was biting Biggie and I thought it was pretty obvious that he was paying homage. Other instances? Idk. Didn't R.A use that rape and pillage a village line on Uncommon Valor? When Jay used it on Monster I automatically thought of it lol

I mentioned that he is definitely 'paying homage' in his recent work. For obvious reasons.

And I do realise rappers pay tribute. But Jay's were originally random, not well-know lines. That he often paraphrased lol.

It'd be different if Jay started a verse with "it's all a dream" or something to that effect.

But yeah, it was probably homage, as you'd be pretty stupid to take from biggie and expect not to get caught out.

[Blu]

Ok? Dude rappers compliment each other all the time.

You know how many times Eminem complimented Lil Wayne? That doesn't mean anything. Generally speaking, many hip hop heads find Nas, Jay, and someone like Andre 3000 to be the GOATs.

Lol no. Eminem, Jay, Nas are usually the 3 most named names. That's why he won polls, etc, etc. Denying it is straight being delusional. To this day, he's the biggest rapper ever, he sold the most records and he's still loved by a lot of his old fans. (It's true that some turned their back on him though, but his core fanbase is still there for the most part)

That's why Relapse, which wasn't really appealing to people who didn't know him before, still sold like 2 millions records. Eminem is considered as one of the best alive, if not the best amongst Jay and Nas. That's it.

He won polls because people who just got into the Recovery Eminem. Hop off this forum and go anywhere else and you'll see what hip hop fans think of Eminem, not teenage girls. I doubt you even know who 3stacks is, so take this nit just as an argument, but an educational lesson.

[Trimss]

Oh yeah a 16 year old who thinks 2chainz had the best album of the year will definitely educate me. Thanks for dropping knowledge on me boi.

And the "best rapper alive poll" was from 2008. No Recovery, no Relapse. We just got Encore and the Re Up. So what you're saying is invalid.

[Accor]

lol trimss you post on sl. you know how they dislike the majority of what eminem has released since 03.. that's basically what it's like on every rap forum I've been on except sl is MUCH more kind to eminem's first 3 albums. usually eminem isn't even being discussed lol

[Trimss]

Eminem is still considered as one of the best to ever do it, even now, I'm not saying he is or anything, I agree he has been average but HE IS considered as one of the best to ever do it.

Even now, in every rap site, article about Eminem, it's always gonna be about "arguably the best rapper alive" or "one of the best to ever do it" and that's a fact.

[King Lance]

Eminem is still considered as one of the best to ever do it, even now, I'm not saying he is or anything, I agree he has been average but HE IS considered as one of the best to ever do it.

GL trimss, you gonna need it if you want to discuss about Eminem on trshady. forum isn't even about Eminem anymore nowadays

[King Lance]

Eminem is the best there is, the best there was and the best there ever will be

[Trimss]

Not even talking about quality but reputation lol. He is one of the most respected MC, obviously some internet nerds who nitpick every details (and they only do that with artists they don't like btw) are gonna say otherwise.

[Blu]

Lol ok. I cant get through your thick skulls so let's just end this silly argument.

[Block]

Hm... Shadows On The Sun > the entire year of 2003

[Accor]

I think the "paying homage" was a little excessive but there's no way he was biting him. Nobody is stupid enough to constantly bite one of the biggest rappers of all time.

I think they gave too much attention because almost 98% of his homages go to B.I.G
Unlike, let's say Em...He paid homages to several different rappers, so people didn't care that much.

@Accor...Kanye better than Em? How delusional are you? And you call us biased

lol I say that in almost all the threads that have like 10 pages of discussion so I can get reactions like these.

But I do think that Kanye's music is better than Eminem's and there's absolutely nothing delusional about that. I also think that lyrically, for the most part, MBDTF is better than Recovery, + it crushes it in basically every other area.

[Trimss]

Too far. Lol

[Accor]

there's absolutely nothing delusional about that.

Why?

How am I delusional for liking Kanye's music more than Eminem's? How does that make sense?

I will take Encore over MBDTF any day!

See this is why no one likes you faggot.

[Mathers]

I will take Encore over MBDTF any day!

Way too far.