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Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby Cube23 » Oct 26th, '12, 02:12

BigBoss wrote:NO KANYE WEST DA GOAT


faggot


No one would ever argue Kanye West to be a top tier "emcee".

At least any one around here that has credbility.
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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby MikeNUFC » Oct 26th, '12, 02:21

Top 5 of all time. In his prime, he was a very, very clever lyricist. Obviously he's dreadful now.
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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby Accor » Oct 26th, '12, 02:32

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8h0d00gEh4

jay dropped a classic in 07 too

lmfao at royce banks and dmx being better rappers than jay-z :''''(

he's not consistent tho bro that's actually his main problem top 3 tho
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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby classthe_king » Oct 26th, '12, 04:22

bigray wrote:u can disagree with my opinion but u can't question it.


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You think your personal attacks make up for what you lack?
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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby CrashBand » Oct 26th, '12, 04:35

I think he meant - you can have a different opinion but his is right.
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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby King Lance » Oct 26th, '12, 04:37

and he's right.
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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby Fleka » Oct 26th, '12, 04:47

No. If there is a GOAT rapper, that`s Eminem.
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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby CrashBand » Oct 26th, '12, 04:50

Lance5 wrote:and he's right.

DMX better than Jay-Z?

Nigel please.
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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby Fleka » Oct 26th, '12, 04:52

InsaneTRex94 wrote:
Fleka wrote:No. If there is a GOAT rapper, that`s Eminem.

You didn't just do that :facepalm

I did.
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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby Accor » Oct 26th, '12, 05:27

bigray wrote:
Accor wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8h0d00gEh4

jay dropped a classic in 07 too

lmfao at royce banks and dmx being better rappers than jay-z :''''(

he's not consistent tho bro that's actually his main problem top 3 tho


LMFAO at Top 3!!! DMX already battled Jay and destroyed him...it is a very rare video to find the full battle....u can disagree with my opinion but u can't question it.


why is having jay-z in your top 3 laughable? even if you disagree, it's not like i'm saying birdman is the best rapper of all time, jay-z is widely considered one of the greats :s you think jadakiss is better than jay-z man

o and didn't eminem loose a battle to some guy named juice or some shit.
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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby Blu » Oct 26th, '12, 06:26

Accor wrote:o and didn't eminem loose a battle to some guy named juice or some shit.

Inb4threadgetsderailedto12pageargumentaboutEm
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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby Trimss » Oct 26th, '12, 11:53

If you count popularity, Jay-Z is one of the greatest MC but not the greatest.
If you don't count popularity, he's not.
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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby tadpole25 » Oct 26th, '12, 14:05

Consistency is actually a good point.

Most rappers fade away, burn out or die.

Do you know ANY other rapper who has been up at the top of the greats for 16 consecutive years?
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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby Accor » Oct 26th, '12, 14:23

Geno wrote:
Accor wrote:o and didn't eminem loose a battle to some guy named juice or some shit.

And Eminem ether'd Jay-Z on Renegade...

So if Em lost to Juice... and Jay-Z lost to Em...

Well then Jay-Z sucks really bad. :shifty:


jay's second verse is the best on the song imo. eminem does have him beat on flow but I think they were even on that song. Don't see how anyone got "ethered", it's not like jay had anything less than great verses lol. I've never seen anyone actually explain how Eminem's verses were better than Jay's

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Having Jay Z in your top 3 is laughable just like you laughed at Royce, Banks and DMX when I said I like them better...the feeling is mutual! It is also not like I am saying 2 Chainz, Ross, Wiz are the best rappers of all time. Yes I do like Jadakiss and Banks more than Jay Z but I will agree that Jay is more consistent and his earlier work is better than both their careers. Juice did beat EM in a battle but the dude does not even have a career where as DMX's earlier work is pretty much untouchable. These are all opinions so don't lose sleep bud!


No it isn't the same lol. You responded to me having him in my top 3 like I'm saying 2 Chainz is a better lyricist than Mos Def. You realize he's one of the most respected lyricists of all time, right?
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Re: Why Jay-Z is the best MC of all time.

Postby 12characters » Oct 26th, '12, 15:43

Accor wrote: I've never seen anyone actually explain how Eminem's verses were better than Jay's


Actually Embase had this long ass post as to why they were better. I would link you to it but the search function is still fucked up.
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