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Re: next president

Postby classthe_king » Oct 31st, '12, 22:57

Yeah we definitely need a military but we also can definitely afford to cut some of that spending and put it into education.
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Re: next president

Postby AbramIsaac » Oct 31st, '12, 23:03

Depends on the issue, I suppose.

What I said about the military situation isn't really a reflection of my personal views on it, just to be clear. I'm not endorsing our presence all over the world, and I'm definitely not a fan of the ridiculous amount of money we blow on contractors...especially the paramilitary forces we help fund to "fight drugs" in South America. Don't even get me started on that shit, though.

Honestly, far left and far right have way more in common than people realize. True conservatives shouldn't be interested in foreign intervention, and most liberals are anti-war. So why are the left and right divided about Israel at all? Because they can't survive without our help, and they aren't Muslims, so the Right has given them a blank check.

So, to answer your question, I'm not sure I can answer your question. My views on drugs are probably considered to be very liberal, but a true conservative (think libertarians) would be pro personal freedom. They wouldn't want regulation on what people can put into their bodies. Unfortunately, the idea of personal liberty and responsibility has been replaced by Religious fervor on the Right, and Liberals can't seem to agree on anything anyway, so no one gets anything done.

I'm just a conflicted American, trying to think for myself. This isn't a great country for that anymore, at least in the realm of politics.
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Re: next president

Postby classthe_king » Oct 31st, '12, 23:07

^^^That might be my favorite post of all time on here. For some reason it really struck a chord for me, wow.
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Re: next president

Postby Spyder » Nov 1st, '12, 02:10

as far as the far left and far right not being different i agree, but most cant have truly radical ideals as the masses wouldnt vote for them. for instance the American Communist party, they never have anyone nominated because their ideas are to strong(given the communist name doesnt help)
so politicians play to the middle, which is why you hear romney agree with obama on alot even though... he probably doesnt agree.

i find abram very knowledgeable, and frankly im scared to argue him. if he ever disagreed with me id rest my case LOL
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Re: next president

Postby Unlyricallyrics » Nov 1st, '12, 16:55

Spyder wrote:please be joking

the US is the most powerful nation in the world, that alone spawns the fact that alot of other countries hate us. also now that we have this big thing with the middle east and each president feeling it is our duty to rescue other nations that are being bullied. its 100 necessity for us to have a military to defend ourselves from probable danger, much less every major country should have military... its common sense really. especially seeing as how obama and romney both said we defend isreal in times of war, and im pretty sure war can happen there any second.

the funding may be a little more than needed, but thats besides the point

Maybe no one would hate usa if you guys werent all over the world waging war. And can you name one country that would want to invade usa? And even if there were some you could always threaten them with nukes.
Besides it's not your duty to "rescue" nations that are being bullied. And even if it was, there are better ways than going there shooting everything on sight.
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Re: next president

Postby classthe_king » Nov 1st, '12, 18:01

Unlyricallyrics wrote:Besides it's not your duty to "rescue" nations that are being bullied. And even if it was, there are better ways than going there shooting everything on sight.


Yeah because that's totally what we do LMAO
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Re: next president

Postby Unlyricallyrics » Nov 1st, '12, 18:15

classthe_king wrote:
Unlyricallyrics wrote:Besides it's not your duty to "rescue" nations that are being bullied. And even if it was, there are better ways than going there shooting everything on sight.


Yeah because that's totally what we do LMAO

Cant tell if sarcastic or not. :whistle: :smoking:
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Re: next president

Postby Spyder » Nov 2nd, '12, 00:29

i dont agree with it

im just stating that is why


and if the US didnt have a military, i could name like fifteen countries who would attack
the only reason noone comes here is because of our military...
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Re: next president

Postby UofLCard » Nov 2nd, '12, 05:48

Unlyricallyrics wrote:Maybe no one would hate usa if you guys werent all over the world waging war.


A lot of us Americans are against this war.
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Re: next president

Postby Unlyricallyrics » Nov 2nd, '12, 14:27

UofLCardFan08 wrote:
Unlyricallyrics wrote:Maybe no one would hate usa if you guys werent all over the world waging war.


A lot of us Americans are against this war.

You think the people from middle-east know or even care? I didnt mean that europeans or aussies hate usa i ment countries where US military is killing people.
Spyder wrote:i dont agree with it

im just stating that is why


and if the US didnt have a military, i could name like fifteen countries who would attack
the only reason noone comes here is because of our military...

Like 15? What, china, russia and north korea.
And like i said, usa could save some nukes just in case.
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Re: next president

Postby Spyder » Nov 2nd, '12, 17:17

if we had no military

Iraq
Afghanistan
north korea
china
prob pakistan
japan may still be mad at us
maybe russia cause theyre crazy
iran
if there is no military Mexico would probably step, cause were stopping their drugs

thats off the top, more middle eastern countries i would guess

and nukes are a poor substitute for a military
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Re: next president

Postby classthe_king » Nov 2nd, '12, 18:17

Japan is in love with us, we built the Iraq and Afghan government so they definitely wouldn't.
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Re: next president

Postby Emadyville » Nov 7th, '12, 00:29

I just voted after work today.
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Re: next president

Postby ImANoob » Nov 7th, '12, 00:30

i want obama to win even though he probably wont
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Re: next president

Postby Emadyville » Nov 7th, '12, 00:31

Hage wrote:http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results

You can follow the results here


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