Elision wrote:I'll take back what I said about LSD being like Salvia, apparently that's just my experience. I haven't experienced hardcore (30x+) Salvia, though, so that may be our difference.
And smoking, hopefully, since I'll be extracting it myself. If I can find a reliable source elsewhere before hand that may change
Ah, yes. At lower doses it's more pleasant.
I was thinking about going the oral route, but I'm not sure I want to be in that state of mind for as long as the oral administration tends to take. My relationship with Tryptamines is tentatively positive, nad I don't really want to push it with an intense experience over the course of several hours. Smoking it seems very interesting.
EminemBase wrote:Do you mean Salvia is one of the most powerful?
How does it differ to DMT, have you fully hit Salvia hard then? and DMT?
Yes, Salvia is in a league that only DMT can compare to. They are two sides of a very strange coin. One is bright and cloudy (heavenly, perhaps?), and one is dark and scary (hellish, almost).
While I haven't had any direct experience with DMT, I assure you that Salvia surpasses anything but that when it comes to the full-on immersion that it demands of you at higher doses. I've smoked Salvia many times, but the one time I really pushed it, it pushed back in a way that I couldn't even describe for a while.
I had some strong extract, a mix between 40x and 60x, I believe. Either that, or it was 60x/80x. I can't remember for sure. I had a small metal bowl, the kind you pick up for 5 bucks at a head shop. I loaded it maybe halfway full, and took the torch lighter to it. I inhaled one long draw, held my breath, and started to lay down.
While I know that I must have exhaled at some point, I don't remember it. Truthfully, I can't exactly remember even laying down all the way. What follows isn't a recount of what I was feeling lucidly, as it all happened very fast, and very violently.
I felt as if I was being rocketed through space at high speed, and then I stopped abruptly, with the half-formed thought that I had been caught in a cosmic net of some sort. I knew nothing of who I was, what I had done, or what was happening. I only knew
something had happened, and I was now trapped in a metal box of some sort. Now, keep in mind, I only saw the outside of this metal puzzle box. There was nothing else but black empty space. The box began pulsating with purple light, that resembled lightning. Then the box became four boxes, and kept multiplying until there were 16, and then 32, all connected by this purple lightning, in a net of sorts. I thought/heard a voice comprised of many voices, alien sounding, saying "she's got you now".
I was gripped with the knowledge--not a lucid thought, but the knowledge--that whatever I had done had sent me here, and whatever was in this box before had taken my place. Not only had this just happened now, but it had also happened many times before. Whoever I was before was gone, and the entity that was trapped here prior to me was now going to take my place.
Then, the puzzle box came back into focus. This "mind box" began shifting, and solving itself. Other shapes began emerging out of the darkness in pairs. Other objects, that my mind-self was trying to escape to. I then re-entered my body, standing in my bedroom, gripping the lighter and pipe tightly in my hands. Every time I looked at them, reality began falling apart around me, and I would start to get sucked back into Salvia Reality. I hid the pipe and lighter under my bed, and spent the next 10 minutes or so saying "holy shit...holy fucking shit...what the fuck...holy shit", and so on.
Keep in mind, this entire experience could have only happened over the course of less than 3 minutes. Yet, it was timeless. It felt like an eternity. The afterglow consisted of me losing contact with reality briefly every time I saw something that looked like a pattern (blinds, tiles, etc) until morning came and I finally went to sleep.
