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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby EminemInsider » Nov 8th, '12, 03:55

Here's one - Masta Ace in "Beautiful":

Locked away/Dr. Dre
Canning: What will it say on your tombstone?
Charlie Sheen: Something dot com.

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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby Elision » Nov 8th, '12, 06:28

EminemInsider wrote:So where are all these previously done multisyllabic rhymes Eminem was using?

If you can find somebody who rhymed "HIV" with "fake ID" before Eminem, please feel free to point it out. If not, then I think it deserves mentioning that Eminem was the one who came up with it.

We're not talking about "world" and "girl" here. People don't just tear out a sheet of paper and go, "fake ID/HIV." Well, not unless they've heard Role Model before.
http://youtu.be/9TiJqmnXaqE?t=2m15s
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby Blu » Nov 8th, '12, 06:31

Elision wrote:
EminemInsider wrote:So where are all these previously done multisyllabic rhymes Eminem was using?

If you can find somebody who rhymed "HIV" with "fake ID" before Eminem, please feel free to point it out. If not, then I think it deserves mentioning that Eminem was the one who came up with it.

We're not talking about "world" and "girl" here. People don't just tear out a sheet of paper and go, "fake ID/HIV." Well, not unless they've heard Role Model before.
http://youtu.be/9TiJqmnXaqE?t=2m15s
more than 2 years prior to SSLP

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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby Table » Nov 8th, '12, 08:08

Elision wrote:
EminemInsider wrote:So where are all these previously done multisyllabic rhymes Eminem was using?

If you can find somebody who rhymed "HIV" with "fake ID" before Eminem, please feel free to point it out. If not, then I think it deserves mentioning that Eminem was the one who came up with it.

We're not talking about "world" and "girl" here. People don't just tear out a sheet of paper and go, "fake ID/HIV." Well, not unless they've heard Role Model before.
http://youtu.be/9TiJqmnXaqE?t=2m15s
more than 2 years prior to SSLP


OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Lol
Btw Brotha Lynch too rhymed them in '97. It's a cool thread doe, we get to learn shit.
And what Amadeo said.
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby JuNiPER » Nov 8th, '12, 08:45

Em used a jay line on business when jay did it on izzo
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby Elision » Nov 8th, '12, 09:25

Amadeo wrote:They both came up with it on their own...Tech N9ne did it first.
My point is that it doesn't matter who came up with it first because we're all plucking from the same bag of words and the final products are completely unrelated. With the amount of verses written/recorded each day, by every prominent rapper, this is inevitable. But know that there is a fine line between inevitable and intentional.

Of course Em's lyrics have been bit before, but the true examples have already been argued into the ground here. The only examples left to post are simple coincidences and you're trying to lynch people for it (not you, amadeo). And if it's not that, people are freaking out over obvious homage (like the post directly above this)

The OP reminds me of when dwight schrute found that roach in the parking lot :facepalm
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby Elision » Nov 8th, '12, 11:39

I just don't see why someone perfectly capable of rhyming at that level (such as the artists you listed) would need/try to use Eminem lyrics to compensate. It's just silly
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby CrashBand » Nov 8th, '12, 14:55

Elision wrote:I just don't see why someone perfectly capable of rhyming at that level (such as the artists you listed) would need/try to use Eminem lyrics to compensate. It's just silly

I imagine it's often unintentional and subconscious.

If I'm trying to think of something to rhyme with 'work a sweat' a bunch of examples from Rock Bottom are going to spring to mind.

I may even think I legitimately thought up 'deserve respect'
or even variations of the options--say 'reverse respect'.
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby CrashBand » Nov 8th, '12, 15:11

Amadeo wrote:It's not that they need his lyrics to write their own. The reason is different for each case. Take the Justice case for instance:

1. He thinks of a punchline on the spot to mock his opponent using props and handwritten signs. "You ain't freestyling if you have to use props."

2. He thinks of a whole bunch of things that rhyme with "use props" to set it up. He thinks of boob job, and then remembers that rhymes with Snoop Dogg because he's seen 8 Mile.

Organik did it freestyling too (seemingly). For all the other written cases, it's usually just the rapper getting lazy and deciding to borrow an Eminem rhyme, hoping nobody will notice.

It isn't something to lose sleep over, and you wouldn't take them to court for intellectual property theft...it's just lazy.

Elision's argument is that it's probable Justice thought of boob job/Snoop Dogg independently.

Regardless if he's recalling a rhyme.
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby CrashBand » Nov 8th, '12, 15:17

Me too.

I think it's obvious that you are going to recall rhymes from rappers you've listened to heavily.
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby CrashBand » Nov 8th, '12, 15:24

I think it's obvious you are going to recall multis. And I agree you shouldn't use it knowingly.

You may not be aware of 'biting' it though. And I imagine a lot of cases are subconscious bites, lol.

edit: Although I see where Elision is coming from--coincidences will certainly occur with top-tier rhymers.
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby CrashBand » Nov 8th, '12, 16:17

Amadeo wrote:If you heard a rapper rhyme Soul Calibur with Noel Gallagher

Wow. Now that certainly is a "gift from the gods" you were talking about in the other thread
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby Elision » Nov 8th, '12, 20:15

This is essentially the argument we're trying to have, and I think Amadeo knows it :shifty:

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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby EminemInsider » Nov 10th, '12, 04:33

Elision wrote:
EminemInsider wrote:So where are all these previously done multisyllabic rhymes Eminem was using?

If you can find somebody who rhymed "HIV" with "fake ID" before Eminem, please feel free to point it out. If not, then I think it deserves mentioning that Eminem was the one who came up with it.

We're not talking about "world" and "girl" here. People don't just tear out a sheet of paper and go, "fake ID/HIV." Well, not unless they've heard Role Model before.
http://youtu.be/9TiJqmnXaqE?t=2m15s
more than 2 years prior to SSLP


And where's the proof? When was this recorded? I've looked everywhere and seen no mention of when it was made.

Role Model was made in 98, and he used the first verse as a freestyle before SSLP even dropped.
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby Elision » Nov 10th, '12, 05:34

EminemInsider wrote:
Elision wrote:
EminemInsider wrote:So where are all these previously done multisyllabic rhymes Eminem was using?

If you can find somebody who rhymed "HIV" with "fake ID" before Eminem, please feel free to point it out. If not, then I think it deserves mentioning that Eminem was the one who came up with it.

We're not talking about "world" and "girl" here. People don't just tear out a sheet of paper and go, "fake ID/HIV." Well, not unless they've heard Role Model before.
http://youtu.be/9TiJqmnXaqE?t=2m15s
more than 2 years prior to SSLP


And where's the proof? When was this recorded? I've looked everywhere and seen no mention of when it was made.
You looked everywhere and still missed the next verse of the song :laughing:

Anyway, here's another. And I can find more if you want to keep embarrassing yourself.
http://youtu.be/vx27b73ojf0?t=35s
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