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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby EminemInsider » Nov 10th, '12, 06:15

Elision wrote:You looked everywhere and still missed the next verse of the song :laughing:

Anyway, here's another. And I can find more if you want to keep embarrassing yourself.
http://youtu.be/vx27b73ojf0?t=35s


No, that was the first thing I listened to - the Tech N9ne song is pretty much unintelligible, like most Tech N9ne songs. He mentions "2K" and he mentions 97. You're making a big assumption in assuming that him maybe saying something futuristic about "97" means it must have been made before 1997.

infecting you in 2k the year god conquered the virus but to they injected fuck up in ya no matter what who say spreadin hella fast kickin ass like juve lets party nigga ladies lift your dress this new world rapper got you flashin showin my bar code on your breast science will keep it going when im gone cheap in 97 but in 90 nina tecca n9ne clones hopefully dobie one canobie will help me spread it out your sockets into your fiber optics mr president look around I got a sea of anarchists to shut this motherfucker down the virus


This shit is meaningless drivel.

And regardless, this is irrelevant unless the song leaked/was released prior to Eminem writing Role Model in 1998. This song was reportedly unreleased. An unreleased song by an underground rapper = Eminem couldn't have heard it until it was released/leaked. If it leaked sometime in 1999, too late.

Another poster already mentioned the Brotha Lynch Hung song. Released fall of 1997. While it's possible Eminem heard it before writing Role Model, again...it's not the same as Nas using it in a famous single 2-3 years after the most famous rapper in the world had used it in a song that was featured in a music video. We KNOW Nas, Masta Ace, and Justice had all heard Eminem using the rhyme schemes mentioned in this thread. We really have no idea whether Eminem heard either of the aforementioned tracks. If they thought of the rhyme before he did, they deserve credit for that...but it's not the same as blatant influence/unintentional biting.

And if it wasn't clear before, since you apparently leaped to your own conclusions about my intent - I wasn't starting this thread to criticize the rappers who bit Eminem's rhyme schemes. I'm a fan of the guys I've referenced in this thread so far...except for Organik, whom I'm indifferent towards. My point was simply to point out Eminem's influence.

Your argument that they're all picking from the same pool of words is asinine. If another rapper ever rhymes "intertwinin with gangsters" and "sinner's mind is a sanctum," and doesn't give proper credit, he should be absolutely ashamed of himself. These 3-syllable multis might be mere coincidence, but comparing it to hitting the same fucking note in a song is just ridiculous.
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby Elision » Nov 10th, '12, 10:19

EminemInsider wrote:This shit is meaningless drivel.
It isn't, but you don't understand Tech which is fine (there's a thread on it if you care.) If you did you'd know what his early 90's work sounds like.
EminemInsider wrote:And regardless, this is irrelevant unless the song leaked/was released prior to Eminem writing Role Model in 1998. This song was reportedly unreleased. An unreleased song by an underground rapper = Eminem couldn't have heard it until it was released/leaked.
What the actual fuck now? Who are you talking to? I haven't once accused Em of plagiarism.

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EminemInsider wrote:Another poster already mentioned the Brotha Lynch Hung song. Released fall of 1997. While it's possible Eminem heard it before writing Role Model
You're avoiding the point again, you claimed that artists are not capable of writing at this tier prior to having heard Eminem's music.
EminemInsider wrote:We KNOW Nas, Masta Ace, and Justice had all heard Eminem using the rhyme schemes mentioned in this thread. We really have no idea whether Eminem heard either of the aforementioned tracks. If they thought of the rhyme before he did, they deserve credit for that...
Actually we don't know what Nas heard. Or masta ace. But it's a fair assumption. Which is what you're basing this whole thing on. What isn't a fair assumption is that rappers perfectly capable of carrying their own without Em ever existing have directly incorporated his work into theirs. And that's where this whole thing falls because you're blatantly picking and choosing which assumption to lean on based purely on personal interest. You need to look at this objectively and see that by your standards, everything you're accusing these artists of is shit that Em is just as guilty of.
EminemInsider wrote:If another rapper ever rhymes "intertwinin with gangsters" and "sinner's mind is a sanctum," and doesn't give proper credit, he should be absolutely ashamed of himself. These 3-syllable multis might be mere coincidence
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This is what we have been telling you, dude. 7+ syllable multi's like you mentioned are almost never repeated because the chances simply don't exist for them to be repeatedly stumbled upon in such close succession. But 7+ syllable multi's were/are not the examples being given, and if they were I wouldn't be crying about it.
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby Elision » Nov 10th, '12, 10:54

Amadeo wrote:I'm sure he has trouble comprehending the genius of fucking Tech N9ne

I didn't mean the genius of tech, it's all subjective. I meant his style of writing. I have no problem admitting that it's weird to say the least
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby WakeUpShow » Nov 10th, '12, 12:24

I loved the unadulterated awkwardness in that scene. I can't wait for next season. He seems to have no bounds, he's constantly progressing and becoming more hilarious. By the way I think it's awesome that he hit his stride in his 40's.

Sorry, mods. Back to the topic.
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby Sam. » Nov 10th, '12, 22:21

Fat dyke/ Rap tight. - Fast Lane (Royce).
Eminem used in Reunion.

In the same EP? Dunno which song was done 1st, so can't say who bit who?
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby CrashBand » Nov 11th, '12, 02:08

Sam. wrote:Fat dyke/ Rap tight. - Fast Lane (Royce).
Eminem used in Reunion.

In the same EP? Dunno which song was done 1st, so can't say who bit who?

Yeah, I remember noticing that.

Pretty poor form from the both of them there.
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby Table » Nov 11th, '12, 06:45

CrashBand wrote:
Sam. wrote:Fat dyke/ Rap tight. - Fast Lane (Royce).
Eminem used in Reunion.

In the same EP? Dunno which song was done 1st, so can't say who bit who?

Yeah, I remember noticing that.

Pretty poor form from the both of them there.


This reminds me of Royce biting (not rhymes, but rhyme scheme and flow) Em's Dead wrong verse for Renegades. (or was it the other way around?)
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby SliK » Nov 11th, '12, 06:53

Table wrote:
CrashBand wrote:
Sam. wrote:Fat dyke/ Rap tight. - Fast Lane (Royce).
Eminem used in Reunion.

In the same EP? Dunno which song was done 1st, so can't say who bit who?

Yeah, I remember noticing that.

Pretty poor form from the both of them there.


This reminds me of Royce biting (not rhymes, but rhyme scheme and flow) Em's Dead wrong verse for Renegades. (or was it the other way around?)

He was paying homage. Kanye has done the same thing.

I am pretty sure Fast Lane was written and recorded before The Reunion, judging by their style.
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby CrashBand » Nov 11th, '12, 08:37

Yeah, The Renegade verse was homage.

It's just pretty poor from both of them as they were writing off each other on that EP.
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby SliK » Nov 11th, '12, 08:39

Yeah I agree, it shouldn't have happened.
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby Whitefox » Nov 11th, '12, 19:19

Eminem used Biggies' concept in lyrics from Ten Crack Commandments on Get U Mad.
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby CrashBand » Nov 26th, '12, 07:25

It's not a rhyme scheme. But one of the biggest bites from Em I've seen is Hopsin - Baby's Daddy.

"And rumor has it you sucked his dick then kissed me!"

Drips - "this bitch has been visiting someone else and sucking his dick and kissing you on the lips"
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby Willy » Nov 26th, '12, 07:29

^Jeeessuusss I can't believe this!
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby CrashBand » Nov 26th, '12, 07:36

WilyMo021 wrote:^Jeeessuusss I can't believe this!

Lol. Smh Hopsin.

I think I've bitten that as well haha.

Purely coincidence though, as Elision would say. :shifty:
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Re: Eminem rhyme schemes other rappers bit

Postby MikeNUFC » Nov 26th, '12, 15:10

CrashBand wrote:It's not a rhyme scheme. But one of the biggest bites from Em I've seen is Hopsin - Baby's Daddy.

"And rumor has it you sucked his dick then kissed me!"

Drips - "this bitch has been visiting someone else and sucking his dick and kissing you on the lips"


Also the "jesuuus, I can't believe this" line.
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