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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby SliK » Nov 22nd, '12, 14:56

Fleka wrote:^^ You kill cats on purpose!? You don`t want to know what I`m thinking right now.

Actually, I don't care.
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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby Fleka » Nov 22nd, '12, 14:59

Of course you don`t, you are a cat killing thug, and gangstas just don`t give a fuck.
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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby Guess_Who » Nov 22nd, '12, 15:04

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People you don't understand...the animals he's talking about are sabotaging the native wildlife. I may be speaking out of ignorance, but I've always seemed to think Australians are very protective of their native animals.


Menzo as I told him, those animals feel the same pain that a domestic one. Also, him killing cats here and then is not going to do anything to fix the problem. If there are a plague of something, authorities are the ones to act. And they know how to do it.
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SliK wrote:I don't torture them. And yeah it doesn't really do anything I admit, but even if it saves one possum or whatever it's a fair trade. And realistically it has only been like half a dozen. 2 were accidental in my car, those ones might have been pets though :unsure:


....ah come on..how profesional.
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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby Fleka » Nov 22nd, '12, 15:09

Yeah Menzo, the animals he's talking about are sabotaging the native wildlife. And he is the long arm of the native law, he is an native wildlife undercover special agent with a licence to kill. He is just serving his country. God save the queen.
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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby Guess_Who » Nov 22nd, '12, 15:11

Menzo wrote:
Yes, I know. But everything feels pain to an extent.


¿? Listen here there are a lot of pigeons, they can be annoying as Hell, but doesn't cross my mind go to the street with a gun to kill them. Is just use your common sense.

If there is a plague of something, the autorities act, no need anyone pretending to be Crocodile Dundee.
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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby Guess_Who » Nov 22nd, '12, 15:16

Menzo wrote:
Yeah but pigeons aren't destroying the native wildlife, cara mia.


But again, let the authorities act. What do you think is going to help Slik shooting a bunch of them and trampling a couple accidentaly with his car?

And don't say that about cats!! questo si equivicado ;) they are great. My cat waits for me in he door every single day. :flutter:
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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby classthe_king » Nov 22nd, '12, 17:26

You guys probably don't understand that a lot of times the government encourages the citizens to kill certain animals if they are hurting the rest of the wildlife and are not native to the lands. They even pay anyone who brings in one that they killed.
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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby Guess_Who » Nov 22nd, '12, 17:56

classthe_king wrote:You guys probably don't understand that a lot of times the government encourages the citizens to kill certain animals if they are hurting the rest of the wildlife and are not native to the lands. They even pay anyone who brings in one that they killed.


yeah I get it, feral cats are a big problem in Australia. But why not sterilize them ( TNR: Trap-Neuter-Return),instead of shot them. Like they do in many places with another plagues.

Maybe I have another perception of this, but I just wouldn't be able to kill a cat.

@bigray, cats are felines, they have a different behavior than dogs, you can't show your cat certain things like you do with a dog. And sometimes they are a bit at their own. And they do what they want. Like bosses.
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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby classthe_king » Nov 22nd, '12, 17:59

Guess_Who wrote:
classthe_king wrote:You guys probably don't understand that a lot of times the government encourages the citizens to kill certain animals if they are hurting the rest of the wildlife and are not native to the lands. They even pay anyone who brings in one that they killed.


yeah I get it, feral cats are a big problem in Australia. But why not sterilize them ( TNR: Trap-Neuter-Return),instead of shot them. Like they do in many places with another plagues.

Maybe I have another perception of this, but I just wouldn't be able to kill a cat.

@bigray, cats are felines, they have a different behavior than dogs, you can't show your cat certain things like you do with a dog. And sometimes they are a bit at their own. And they do what they want. Like bosses.


Because sterilizing them doesn't stop them from hurting the wildlife lol
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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby Guess_Who » Nov 22nd, '12, 18:06

classthe_king wrote:
Because sterilizing them doesn't stop them from hurting the wildlife lol


But if they are sterilized the number of them would decrease, because they can't procreate, so no need to kill SO MANY cats.
Is a better long term solution.
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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby WakeUpShow » Nov 23rd, '12, 03:25

Guess_Who wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
Because sterilizing them doesn't stop them from hurting the wildlife lol


But if they are sterilized the number of them would decrease, because they can't procreate, so no need to kill SO MANY cats.
Is a better long term solution.

That doesn't solve the immediate problem. Killing them is a long AND short term solution.
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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby classthe_king » Nov 23rd, '12, 06:36

Guess_Who wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
Because sterilizing them doesn't stop them from hurting the wildlife lol


But if they are sterilized the number of them would decrease, because they can't procreate, so no need to kill SO MANY cats.
Is a better long term solution.


Why the fuck do you care about killing things? If you found a spider in your house would you not kill it because it "feels pain?"
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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby SliK » Nov 23rd, '12, 08:41

Menzo wrote:
Guess_Who wrote:
Menzo wrote:
People you don't understand...the animals he's talking about are sabotaging the native wildlife. I may be speaking out of ignorance, but I've always seemed to think Australians are very protective of their native animals.


Menzo as I told him, those animals feel the same pain that a domestic one. Also, him killing cats here and then is not going to do anything to fix the problem. If there are a plague of something, authorities are the ones to act. And they know how to do it.


Yes, I know. But everything feels pain to an extent.

Guys, nothing feels a bullet to the head.
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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby Guess_Who » Nov 23rd, '12, 11:02

classthe_king wrote:
Guess_Who wrote:
classthe_king wrote:
Because sterilizing them doesn't stop them from hurting the wildlife lol


But if they are sterilized the number of them would decrease, because they can't procreate, so no need to kill SO MANY cats.
Is a better long term solution.


Why the fuck do you care about killing things? If you found a spider in your house would you not kill it because it "feels pain?"


Are you kidding me? Because I'm a normal person. If I wasn't I could get a gun and start to kill every living thing around. But I'm such a pussy.

Are you comparing a spider with a cat? Really? Because we can get into another long debate... Is the same to kill a mosquito than to kill a person? at another level It's the same with the spider and the cat.
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Re: Animal Abuse

Postby SliK » Nov 23rd, '12, 12:20

Yes, taking the life of a spider is the same as a cat as far as I'm concerned. What makes one life worth more than another? There is no argument that you could make that would convince me it's ok to kill something and not another. Either life is precious or it isn't. Murder is illegal, which I agree with, but I support the death penalty.

You are drawing a line somewhere between spiders and cats, I'm drawing that same line between cats and humans.
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