Faggot

[CrashBand]

Where do you draw the line with what words are offensive? Is retarded just as offensive as faggot or *****? Is midget? Both those words are considered offensive to their groups of people now.

I've had this exact discussion.

It certainly is very grey and seems to lead credence towards being able to use faggot/n.gga.

[SajN]

For the love of God/Eminem, stop doubleposting.

[CrashBand]

Okay, sorry.

It's a habit I've seem to of fallen into.

[Willy]

I think it's pretty simple.. a word is not bad, ever. Thar's dumb it's a fucking sound. It's all about context. If someone says n*gger or f*ggot in a way that is clearly not meant to be offensive, then don't take offense. If someone is using those words to make fun of you for how you look or whatever, then go ahead and take offense.. but don't take offense because they used the word, take offense because of they were making fun of you for how you look or whatever.

[Willy]

Lol how is that going to help? They are entitled to the word and all its usings because they are black? You racist against us not colored folk boy?! ARE YA?!

[CrashBand]

I think it's pretty simple.. a word is not bad, ever. Thar's dumb it's a fucking sound. It's all about context. If someone says n*gger or f*ggot in a way that is clearly not meant to be offensive, then don't take offense. If someone is using those words to make fun of you for how you look or whatever, then go ahead and take offense.. but don't take offense because they used the word, take offense because of they were making fun of you for how you look or whatever.

You may have a case for n.gga.

But faggot is always used as an insult.

And it stemmed from homophobic origins. And is still used as a homophobic insult.

[CrashBand]

Lol how is that going to help? They are entitled to the word and all its usings because they are black? You racist against us not colored folk boy?! ARE YA?!

It'd definitely be beneficial hearing from a black person's perspective.

[Willy]

I thought faggot was a stick. Anyways, I call my friends faggots sometimes and don't mean it as a homophobic insult. Well, except foe my friend that's gay but he likes it for some reason.

[Willy]

Crashband your position on this surprises me, you aren't a Macklemore fan by chance..?

[classthe_king]

I guess at this point I just don't care. I'm not going to call a gay person a faggot but I'm still gonna call my friends fags or whatever. They shouldn't get offended but if they do then oh well, suck it up.

[CrashBand]

Crashband your position on this surprises me, you aren't a Macklemore fan by chance..?

Yeah. But I've only listened to Same Love once - if that's where you are implying I got my position from, lol.

I just flatted with a lesbian chick last year, who was fucking smart/open minded. So I sort of refined my position after many discussions with her.

And you just notice how often gay and faggot is used. Always so ignorantly and stupidly.

[Blu]

I never understood why "nigger" and "nigga" are too completely different words.

I personally don't use either word, even when I'm rapping a verse to a song. I quickly switch it out for "man" or "dude" or anything like that.

[Willy]

I think if we remove the taboo the words lose their power. Everyone should be able to say any word they like, and it's up to us to determine what they meant by it. By saying the word is offensive, you make it offensive .

[SliK]

@Menzo I don't think words are comforting or anything either, it's all context. Saying "I'm here, beautiful" doesn't comfort a woman because of the 5 syllables that came out of your mouth, she's comforted because she is reassured that you are there and you think she's beautiful. You could have assured her of that any number of ways, and it wasn't your words that made her feel better but the sentiment behind them.

Same with hateful sentiments. You say "fuck off nigger" or "fuck off you smelly black ape".. I don't think one is more offensive than the other, bu the words "smelly" "black" and "ape" aren't offensive at all, but in this context they most certainly are.

[CrashBand]

I think if we remove the taboo the words lose their power. Everyone should be able to say any word they like, and it's up to us to determine what they meant by it. By saying the word is offensive, you make it offensive .

I disagree.

Firstly "Everyone should be able to say any word they like". Yes, but that isn't really relevant to what I'm saying. Unless you are just using that to show why the censor should be lifted.

I think you can justify if something should be considered offensive.

I made a thread arguing why swearwords like 'fuck' shouldn't be offensive. I don't think gay people should be offensive. Or woman not covering their heads with a burma.

Although, these are all things that people get unjustifiably offended by. Due to ignorance, close-mindedness and plain stupidity.

But something like an insult is pretty easy to comprehend why someone would take offense. If I made fun of you about your ugly looks or small dick you would probably take offense.