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Re: Faggot

Postby SliK » Dec 6th, '12, 04:54

WilyMo021 wrote:
CrashBand wrote:But faggot is used as an insult. Always.


Who were you insulting here?

Wily, I like your style.
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Re: Faggot

Postby CrashBand » Dec 6th, '12, 05:41

SliK wrote:
WilyMo021 wrote:
CrashBand wrote:But faggot is used as an insult. Always.


Who were you insulting here?

Wily, I like your style.

Lol.

You remind me of a friends episode.

Rachel: Emma said her first word..... gleeba
Ross: Thats not a word
Rachel: Yes it is
Ross: Use it in a sentence
Rachel: Uh....Emma just said gleeba
I'm not tryin to be rude, but I sincerely wanna fuck the taste out of your mouth
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Re: Faggot

Postby RoleModel'Est96 » Dec 6th, '12, 16:28

WilyMo021 wrote:
rolemodel96 wrote:One way you can look at it, is that when you say "oh you fucking faggot" you can be directing this at a friend ( who may or may not be homosexual) but when you say "oh you fucking n*ggER" its pretty much directed at that particular social group.
If that makes any sense :unsure:


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Not that one, man!
I emphasised the "ER"

And I agree with the people who say that black people have taken the word and flipped it to their own advantage.
Its like confronting the elephant in the room before anyone else I guess.
Words are just words at the end of the day. You can choose to be offended by them, you can choose to let the word have that power. But then again, everyone is different- words are still pretty powerful and are able to stir certain emotions within people.
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Re: Faggot

Postby SliK » Dec 6th, '12, 17:41

Slut isn't always negative. Girls use it amongst each other the same way black people use n*gga.
My friends do it all the time "sup slut/sluz/sluzza/etc" is a very common greeting.

Also during sex.
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Re: Faggot

Postby Willy » Dec 6th, '12, 17:42

"Promiscuity and whorish nature" aren't necessarily negative. It basically boils down to a *girl that likes to have sex. Societal influence is what spins that negatively.. and even then there are people who don't think it's negative or offensive at all, like me. No words have a universal definition, and like Block said no words are inherently bad.

*used girl to cater to what I think you think the definitions is, I've heard dudes, animals, and even inanimate objects called slut before
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Re: Faggot

Postby flyingmonkey10 » Dec 6th, '12, 23:58

Menzo wrote:
WilyMo021 wrote:"Promiscuity and whorish nature" aren't necessarily negative. It basically boils down to a *girl that likes to have sex. Societal influence is what spins that negatively.. and even then there are people who don't think it's negative or offensive at all, like me. No words have a universal definition, and like Block said no words are inherently bad.

*used girl to cater to what I think you think the definitions is, I've heard dudes, animals, and even inanimate objects called slut before


Obviously.

Nothing is wrong with girls wanting to have sex and appreciate the benefits of it. It's natural, but even THOSE girls don't EVER wanna be referred to as a "slut".

I know a girl who has fucked well over 30 guys in two years, but the moment you say "slut" - in an offensive contextual manner or not - she's absolutely offended.

So, I politely disagree when you say "no words have a universal definition" when it comes to a word like "slut". True or not, a girl won't ever openly accept that title.

but she's a slut!
so you can't call her one in front of her without her getting mad?

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Re: Faggot

Postby Willy » Dec 7th, '12, 01:03

Menzo wrote:
WilyMo021 wrote:"Promiscuity and whorish nature" aren't necessarily negative. It basically boils down to a *girl that likes to have sex. Societal influence is what spins that negatively.. and even then there are people who don't think it's negative or offensive at all, like me. No words have a universal definition, and like Block said no words are inherently bad.

*used girl to cater to what I think you think the definitions is, I've heard dudes, animals, and even inanimate objects called slut before


Obviously.

Nothing is wrong with girls wanting to have sex and appreciate the benefits of it. It's natural, but even THOSE girls don't EVER wanna be referred to as a "slut".

I know a girl who has fucked well over 30 guys in two years, but the moment you say "slut" - in an offensive contextual manner or not - she's absolutely offended.

So, I politely disagree when you say "no words have a universal definition" when it comes to a word like "slut". True or not, a girl won't ever openly accept that title.


We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Re: Faggot

Postby SliK » Dec 7th, '12, 01:23

SliK wrote:Slut isn't always negative. Girls use it amongst each other the same way black people use n*gga.
My friends do it all the time "sup slut/sluz/sluzza/etc" is a very common greeting.

Also during sex.
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Re: Faggot

Postby Willy » Dec 7th, '12, 09:57

SliK wrote:
SliK wrote:Slut isn't always negative. Girls use it amongst each other the same way black people use n*gga.
My friends do it all the time "sup slut/sluz/sluzza/etc" is a very common greeting
Also during sex.


Yep, but even if we couldn't think of a single non-offensive use, the word wouldn't have a universal definition or connotation.
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Re: Faggot

Postby CrashBand » Dec 7th, '12, 09:59

So are you guys alright with faggot or n.gger being used as an insult?

(even though faggot always is)
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Re: Faggot

Postby Willy » Dec 7th, '12, 10:03

CrashBand wrote:So are you guys alright with faggot or n.gger being used as an insult?

(even though faggot always is)


Hell yeah what else am I going to call a homo or black person
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Re: Faggot

Postby CrashBand » Dec 7th, '12, 10:05

WilyMo021 wrote:
CrashBand wrote:So are you guys alright with faggot or n.gger being used as an insult?

(even though faggot always is)


Hell yeah what else am I going to call a homo or black person

You could try and think of something funny/witty.
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Re: Faggot

Postby BigBoss » Dec 7th, '12, 10:17

CrashBand wrote:
WilyMo021 wrote:
CrashBand wrote:So are you guys alright with faggot or n.gger being used as an insult?

(even though faggot always is)


Hell yeah what else am I going to call a homo or black person

You could try and think of something funny/witty.

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Re: Faggot

Postby SliK » Dec 7th, '12, 10:20

CrashBand wrote:So are you guys alright with faggot or n.gger being used as an insult?

(even though faggot always is)

I think there are much worse things. I'm not gay or black, so I can't be totally sure of that, but sexuality and ethnicity isn't something one has any control over. I am white, and if/when I am called a cracker/white boy/wigged I don't take offense in the slightest. I am white, so that's really just a description of me. Same with faggot and nigger, gays are gay and blacks are black, but so what? It is the people who use those slurs that are offended by it, not anyone else. So I am ok with it in the sense that I think personal attacks specific to a person (like targeting their low intelligence or bad odor or anything like that) is actually more offensive because it is attacking the specific person and not a generalized group.
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Re: Faggot

Postby Willy » Dec 7th, '12, 10:21

Fine, I'll hop out of bed for the sake of intelligent conversation.

Am I okay with the words being used as an insult.. here's the thing, there is reason that these words exist. Language is just our attempt at transferring our thoughts with sounds. Sometimes the words "Faggot" and "N.gger" are used to portray someone's prejudice. Am I okay with the words being used as an insult? Doesn't Matter. If these words didn't exist do you think that people with prejudice would just disappear ? A new word would be created to cater to the demand.

Also, faggot is not always used as an insult. Period. Here are some definitions:

— n
1. a bundle of sticks or twigs, esp when bound together and used as fuel
2. a bundle of iron bars, esp a box formed by four pieces of wrought iron and filled with scrap to be forged into wrought iron
3. a ball of chopped meat, usually pork liver, bound with herbs and bread and eaten fried
4. a bundle of anything

Done.

Language CHANGES over time. Meanings are constantly shifting. Words are being created, remembered, and forgotten. And even then, every time someone thinks of a word, the individual has a slightly different interpretation than someone else, and so on and so on. And guess what, the individuals interpretation changes as well. Universal definitions for words simply don't exist.

You would have better luck arguing for the sound of a baby's cry having a universal definition, but even then I'm sure there's a psychopath that interprets the noise as "chop me up and eat me".
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