Tech N9ne's verses make me go..."what?"

[Willy]

Yeah - Tech's not the best lyricist by any stretch of the imagination but he sounds cool.

[Trimss]

Yeah - Tech's not the best lyricist by any stretch of the imagination but he sounds cool.

Well he's still better than The Jokerr.

[Willy]

Allow me to break shit down, Tech N9ne, let's rhyme, rhyme schrederrrr.

[Trimss]

Allow me to break shit down, Tech N9ne, let's rhyme, rhyme schrederrrr.

Dope diss by the way.

But Tech is still cool as fuck, he puts a lot of work in his music and he definitely sounds good lol.

[King Lance]

tech n9ne - low is his best song imo

[Trimss]

tech n9ne - low is his best song imo

Definitely one of his best.

[Shady-Yo]

Dont mean to go offtopic.
But this is the ultimate Juggalo rapper.
His name is The Violator, dont know if youve heard of him. Got some neat mixtapes out.

these fuckin juggalos...


And if we're talking about rhyme schemes... c'mon beat this:

[classthe_king]

Tech N9ne isn't the best lyricist but he's a good entertainer.

[LEVITIKUZ]

When I listen to Lil Wayne or Drake or Nicki or Future or French or Ross or Chief Keef or Lil Sean, they make me go "what? People actually listen to this dumb shit?"

[Elision]

When I listen to Lil Wayne or Drake or Nicki or Future or French or Ross or Chief Keef or Lil Sean, they make me go "what? People actually listen to this dumb shit?"

I don't even consider it rap music.

edit: and willy how are you a jokerr fan without being a tech n9ne fan?

[Trimss]

He probably was a Hopsin fan at first and then heard about The Jokerr. That's how I heard of him anyway, when they were still friends.

[Willy]

I like Tech N9ne, I have KOD and All 6's and 7's and enjoy both of them. I just see flaws in Tech's music that aren't as apparent in Jokerr's. Also, I think J to the O is a lot more versatile and just an overall more interesting/talented artist.

And yeah, I first heard him when Hopsin shared "Ever Before".. I was like, 'Holy Shit, is this guy real?', and have been a fan ever since. He is definitely an abrasive figure with a polarizing personality... but I see the good in him and have a lot of faith in his vision.

And for Tech.. I think he is playing you guys by releasing so many albums. Getting that strange music paper by releasing a bunch of half-assed projects. And you all know how I feel about his lyricism, so yeah. But overall, he is pretty cool and I can see why you guys like him.

[Elision]

I like Tech N9ne, I have KOD and All 6's and 7's and enjoy both of them. I just see flaws in Tech's music that aren't as apparent in Jokerr's. Also, I think J to the O is a lot more versatile and just an overall more interesting/talented artist.

And yeah, I first heard him when Hopsin shared "Ever Before".. I was like, 'Holy Shit, is this guy real?', and have been a fan ever since. He is definitely an abrasive figure with a polarizing personality... but I see the good in him and have a lot of faith in his vision.

And for Tech.. I think he is playing you guys by releasing so many albums. Getting that strange music paper by releasing a bunch of half-assed projects. And you all know how I feel about his lyricism, so yeah. But overall, he is pretty cool and I can see why you guys like him.

The Jokerr's recent work is great. But I heard some freestyle from like 2005 where he sounded like a retarded Em. I'm not saying the Jokerr is bad, because he just isn't, but you have to understand that his music sounds so much like Tech that it's impossible to ignore. It's the reason I like him so much. It's that ruthless, massive sound that comes from years of sharpening. Of course, Tech doesn't produce his music as well but you get my point. The final product is the same regardless. I can't help but feel that you're biased against Tech due to the diss.

But in the case of me being wrong, link a Jokerr (rap) song that you think doesn't have a Tech counterpart that came before it.

[Trimss]

ELISION LINK ME TO THE FREESTYLES

[Willy]

I like Tech N9ne, I have KOD and All 6's and 7's and enjoy both of them. I just see flaws in Tech's music that aren't as apparent in Jokerr's. Also, I think J to the O is a lot more versatile and just an overall more interesting/talented artist.

And yeah, I first heard him when Hopsin shared "Ever Before".. I was like, 'Holy Shit, is this guy real?', and have been a fan ever since. He is definitely an abrasive figure with a polarizing personality... but I see the good in him and have a lot of faith in his vision.

And for Tech.. I think he is playing you guys by releasing so many albums. Getting that strange music paper by releasing a bunch of half-assed projects. And you all know how I feel about his lyricism, so yeah. But overall, he is pretty cool and I can see why you guys like him.

The Jokerr's recent work is great. But I heard some freestyle from like 2005 where he sounded like a retarded Em. I'm not saying the Jokerr is bad, because he just isn't, but you have to understand that his music sounds so much like Tech that it's impossible to ignore. It's the reason I like him so much. It's that ruthless, massive sound that comes from years of sharpening. Of course, Tech doesn't produce his music as well but you get my point. The final product is the same regardless. I can't help but feel that you're biased against Tech due to the diss.

But in the case of me being wrong, link a Jokerr (rap) song that you think doesn't have a Tech counterpart that came before it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECz7aDCdIXk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwBtCf6DGAQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jA0-rmYL9k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBu2SVflgYE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOhcISdkE7o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuQfRkpQnAI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHyyCcebJm4

Here are a few. Also, just because someone raps fast doesn't mean he is being influenced by Tech. I think Jokerr said as far as chopping he was into Bone Thugs.. The major difference is that when The Jokerr chops he is able to make sense, be dope, AND rhyme. He knows when to sacrifice a rhyme for the integrity of the message.

And I think the freestyle you are talking about is actually this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss3BL2kVAAg

Which he made when he was 19, and yeah there is definitely a lot of Em influence..but as far as 'retarded Em', to each their own, I thought it was overall pretty dope with some funny lines.