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Re: Guns

Postby Trimss » Dec 17th, '12, 23:00

ChristinaE12 wrote:Guess I shouldn't ever talk about the .45 I carry in my car. It means I'm fat. That's just too much for me to handle.

Lol


That was sarcasm smh.
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Re: Guns

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 17th, '12, 23:02

ChristinaE12 wrote:Well one thing I learned.. Don't argue with people who think they gave a clue. It's obvious the ones who are lacking.. not one even bothered to refute anything logical that was said.



ohh but you are wrong. Everyone in this thread seem to be on the same page in general. You are the only one who haasnt come with any solution at all. You just said that guns must stay.
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Re: Guns

Postby Willy » Dec 17th, '12, 23:10

cheeseburger wrote:
ChristinaE12 wrote:Well one thing I learned.. Don't argue with people who think they gave a clue. It's obvious the ones who are lacking.. not one even bothered to refute anything logical that was said.



ohh but you are wrong. Everyone in this thread seem to be on the same page in general. You are the only one who haasnt come with any solution at all. You just said that guns must stay.


What is your solution?
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Re: Guns

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 17th, '12, 23:13

Willy wrote:
cheeseburger wrote:
ChristinaE12 wrote:Well one thing I learned.. Don't argue with people who think they gave a clue. It's obvious the ones who are lacking.. not one even bothered to refute anything logical that was said.



ohh but you are wrong. Everyone in this thread seem to be on the same page in general. You are the only one who haasnt come with any solution at all. You just said that guns must stay.


What is your solution?



There is no known working solution, otherwise there wouldnt be any problem...

But theres ways of coming closer to a solution, Class mentioned some of them.
Clean up the streets for starters, old women shouldnt worry for their lives walking home from work.
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Re: Guns

Postby AbramIsaac » Dec 17th, '12, 23:15

I believe Cheese's solution would be to outlaw carrying weapons outside of the home, ban personal ownership of semi auto and high-capacity magazines, and keep most sporting weapons constrained to gun clubs and shooting ranges.

For protection outside of the home, he would advocate for surveillance and police protection. In addition to that, people should avoid areas where something might happen to them and no one could witness it. These are all fine ideas, and I'm sure they are working quite well for most of the world.

But this is America, god damn it!
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Re: Guns

Postby classthe_king » Dec 17th, '12, 23:16

AbramIsaac wrote:Compared to other 1st world nations, we definitely lead by a significant margin as far as gun violence is concerned.


Yeah I know that, I just want to see how much larger they are compared to how much larger our population is
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Re: Guns

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 17th, '12, 23:17

AbramIsaac wrote:I believe Cheese's solution would be to outlaw carrying weapons outside of the home, ban personal ownership of semi auto and high-capacity magazines, and keep most sporting weapons constrained to gun clubs and shooting ranges.

For protection outside of the home, he would advocate for surveillance and police protection. In addition to that, people should avoid areas where something might happen to them and no one could witness it. These are all fine ideas, and I'm sure they are working quite well for most of the world.

But this is America, god damn it!



Lol you should be my translater.

Tbh it would be good if usa could lean at that direction.
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Re: Guns

Postby classthe_king » Dec 17th, '12, 23:23

"For another comparison, Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world, with somewhere between 1.2 to 3 million guns in the private residences of its approximately 8 million citizens. In 2006 there were 34 recorded murders or attempted murders with a gun, representing a firearm homicide rate of 1 per 250,000"

There you go. More guns =/= more violence. It's all about the attitudes and cultures of the people with guns
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Re: Guns

Postby AbramIsaac » Dec 17th, '12, 23:28

Just another reason to love Switzerland, besides legally home grown marijuana, prostitution, and euthanasia.

Fuck, maybe that's why they don't run around killing each other...no PTSD from bullshit wars, everyone's getting high and having sex, and when it's time to end it, a doctor does it for you.
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Re: Guns

Postby Willy » Dec 17th, '12, 23:39

classthe_king wrote:"For another comparison, Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world, with somewhere between 1.2 to 3 million guns in the private residences of its approximately 8 million citizens. In 2006 there were 34 recorded murders or attempted murders with a gun, representing a firearm homicide rate of 1 per 250,000"

There you go. More guns =/= more violence. It's all about the attitudes and cultures of the people with guns


Nice! I'm getting my old and gray on in Switzerland. :happy: Have my prostitute shoot a gun at my J to light it..Only getting on the internet to brag to Cheese. Can't wait.
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Re: Guns

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 17th, '12, 23:45

Willy wrote:
classthe_king wrote:"For another comparison, Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world, with somewhere between 1.2 to 3 million guns in the private residences of its approximately 8 million citizens. In 2006 there were 34 recorded murders or attempted murders with a gun, representing a firearm homicide rate of 1 per 250,000"

There you go. More guns =/= more violence. It's all about the attitudes and cultures of the people with guns


Nice! I'm getting my old and gray on in Switzerland. :happy: Have my prostitute shoot a gun at my J to light it..Only getting on the internet to brag to Cheese. Can't wait.


Im not overly fond of drugs other than alcohol (which is perfectly legal here).
Prostitutes can go suck a dick, I have my girl and Im happy about that. Screwing around got boring at 17, time to grow up. If theres need for release there two hands and one dick. i have no problem doing it in my car on the way to work.
And the guns, well fuck them too. I could get hearing problem for less.
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Re: Guns

Postby AbramIsaac » Dec 17th, '12, 23:48

Okay,

1) Weed > Alcohol. Deal with it, bitch!
2) Sex > Love. One is real, the other is not.
3) Guns > New Zealand. I don't care if that has anything to do with you or not.

I think we've covered everything here, about time we lock this thread up...


EDIT: But in all seriousness, the Switzerland stats are interesting.
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Re: Guns

Postby cheeseburger » Dec 17th, '12, 23:51

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Re: Guns

Postby ChristinaE12 » Dec 17th, '12, 23:53

Trimss wrote:
ChristinaE12 wrote:Guess I shouldn't ever talk about the .45 I carry in my car. It means I'm fat. That's just too much for me to handle.

Lol


That was sarcasm smh.


As was I. Why do you think I said it was too much for me to handle..then lol.
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Re: Guns

Postby SliK » Dec 18th, '12, 05:38

Well that was an interesting read.

Tell me this, what is more of a concern for people's health and safety...
Firearms and firearm related deaths... Or cigarettes?

I'm sure smoking kills more people annually than guns, but governments make money (a LOT of money) off cigarettes. So really, governments aren't concerned about the lives of their citizens. It's just, guns don't make them money.

People with ignorant attitudes like Trimms, tell me honestly what is worse... Legal firearms or legal cigarettes?
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