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Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby cheeseburger » Jan 8th, '13, 21:22

Bigray why you so mad lol?
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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby AbramIsaac » Jan 8th, '13, 21:23

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AbramIsaac wrote:How can you die of weed by heart failure?



Well you could. As in having a heartfailure and you just happen to smoke weed at the same time ;)

Well that's not an argument at all then, lol

You're talking about just having a heart attack randomly, but it's not a cause-effect relationship.
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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby cheeseburger » Jan 8th, '13, 21:27

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AbramIsaac wrote:How can you die of weed by heart failure?



Well you could. As in having a heartfailure and you just happen to smoke weed at the same time ;)

Well that's not an argument at all then, lol

You're talking about just having a heart attack randomly, but it's not a cause-effect relationship.


Yeah it was meant as a joke. But seriously, you cant like overdose weed in some way and die? The body just gets rid of it?
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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby AbramIsaac » Jan 8th, '13, 21:28

Since we're now on health effects, I suppose it's a good time to bring up the study that indicates that long-term regular use of marijuana doesn't impair lung function. Yep, 20 year study showed that, and even indicated that lung function even improved in some users.

http://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20120103 ... g-problems

And cheese, no, you can't overdose from marijuana. It's never happened, and is just about physically impossible. In that aspect, water is more dangerous than marijuana.
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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby Blu » Jan 8th, '13, 21:30

I was reading the Hopsin thread and Trimss brought up that weed can be addictive.

I believe this is very untrue. When something is addictive, you feel the need to use it even when you don't want to.

I smoke nearly everyday, but I'm not biting my nails, tearing apart my hair at the thought of not smoking. I know I'll be able to smoke when I get home and it's because I want to.

Honestly, nothing is better than smoking weed, ordering a fat pizza, and watching a movie on Netflix.
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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby 12characters » Jan 8th, '13, 21:32

I was curious when he brought up heart failure too so I googled it and according abc it can have negative 'long term' heart effects on someone with heart problems already.

Just throwing this out there. I mean, yeah it's a minority and yeah it's abc.. but whatevs. I'm for the legalization of weed by the way.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/HeartFailu ... Ox_OW_IVu4
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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby AbramIsaac » Jan 8th, '13, 21:35

Trimss did say that it was a mental addiction, not a physical one.

But...a mental addiction could be anything. Driving fast, jacking off, playing cards, or watching movies. If you can't control that, it doesn't matter whether or not you're smoking weed, you'll end up "addicted" to something else, because you have no self control. Might as well be marijuana, and not salty snacks or soda.

Speaking as someone that's went through physical withdrawals before, if you can't stop smoking weed, it's because you're a fuck up.
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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby PAINKILLƎR » Jan 8th, '13, 21:36

I don't have a negative view on the use of Marijuana. That is all I have to contribute. Good day.
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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby AbramIsaac » Jan 8th, '13, 21:41

The brain cell myth was due to a study conducted by Dr. Robert G. Heath, in which he basically suffocated rhesus monkeys with smoke, and then blamed the brain damage on the THC. In truth, it was because he was fucking suffocating them, and they weren't getting oxygen to their brains. The study results have never been replicated.
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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby cheeseburger » Jan 8th, '13, 21:42

AbramIsaac wrote:The brain cell myth was due to a study conducted by Dr. Robert G. Heath, in which he basically suffocated rhesus monkeys with smoke, and then blamed the brain damage on the THC. In truth, it was because he was fucking suffocating them, and they weren't getting oxygen to their brains. The study results have never been replicated.


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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby AbramIsaac » Jan 8th, '13, 21:47

Any other negative aspects, cheese? I'm not baiting you for an argument, I'm just curious. You have the mindset of a lot of people--it's not that you're stupid, you've just been given the wrong information by drug warriors. No shame in that man, everyone's given that info prior to learning the truth.

If not, I'm sure we'll get some input from someone else, but I'm interested in any other points you might contribute as well.
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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby 12characters » Jan 8th, '13, 21:51

So on average, how badly could just the smoke itself affect the brain or anything else (lungs?)?
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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby cheeseburger » Jan 8th, '13, 21:54

AbramIsaac wrote:Any other negative aspects, cheese? I'm not baiting you for an argument, I'm just curious. You have the mindset of a lot of people--it's not that you're stupid, you've just been given the wrong information by drug warriors. No shame in that man, everyone's given that info prior to learning the truth.

If not, I'm sure we'll get some input from someone else, but I'm interested in any other points you might contribute as well.

Well yeah, but ive tried it out atleast. Many people claims stuff without even having any experience.

Do you have to like go through a surtain amount of tries before you can flatout experience good things from weed? Cause all my attempts ended in increased heartrate, hallucination, etc
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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby AbramIsaac » Jan 8th, '13, 21:56

@12characters
While the combustion of plant material isn't ideal, the cannabinoids seem to counter-act the harmful effects normally associated with smoke. THC actually deprives cancer cells of a specific protein they need to grow and spread.

@cheese
You had hallucinations? Are you sure you were smoking real weed? Because some of those symptoms sound like the effects from smoking synthetic THC blends like Spice.
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Re: Marijuana (Good, Bad, Ugly?)

Postby cheeseburger » Jan 8th, '13, 22:02

It wasnt the first time, it was the last time lol. Scary as fuck.
Im not sure what it was but im pretty sure it wasnt anything crazy. The guys i smoked it with were regular weed smokers.

One of the times I was high I liked it. I sat down in a sofa and took one hugh hit, laid back and felt heavy as fuck. I thought I slid through the cracks in the sofa.
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