King Mathers songs?

[NotFinished]

Wee Wee 07

Syllables 06

My Darling 08

Be Careful What You Wish For 08

Emulate 06

Get Money 07

The Apple 06

Just guesses.

syllables would make sense cause Jay-Z and Dre were working together on Kingdom Come. And Get Money was supposed to be the "Official Remix" to the song before the P Diddy and Jay version came out, and the probably scrapped his verse.

[python]

Wait, I thought he overdosed in 2008. Hmmm, then all of the slurred tracks must be from 2007 (excluding It's Been Real). Also, Wee Wee cannot be from 2007, because Zach and Miri was released in 2008.

[EminemBase]

I still feel like Ballin' Uncontrollably is from late 08 early 09 as a fuck around track. His voice reminds me of "Detroit Basketball" on it.

Huh lol? It's clearly earlier than that.

The fact he does a Superbad monologue on it says it's probably 07.

But apart from that, his rhyming and shit is terrible and i know it's a complete piss-take of a track, but you can clearly hear he's out of ideas and in a loopy, Encore-ish slump so resorting to nonsense.

Nothing about his style or voice suggests it's anywhere near Relapse... compared to say "Wee Wee", which was apparently 08, and, you can actually hear the beginning of Relapse in that song. It's completely absurd but it's got the kind of... dead/laid back yet tricky flow, with violence etc.

[CanadaPure]

Huh lol? It's clearly earlier than that.

The fact he does a Superbad monologue on it says it's probably 07.

But apart from that, his rhyming and shit is terrible and i know it's a complete piss-take of a track, but you can clearly hear he's out of ideas and in a loopy, Encore-ish slump so resorting to nonsense.

Nothing about his style or voice suggests it's anywhere near Relapse... compared to say "Wee Wee", which was apparently 08, and, you can actually hear the beginning of Relapse in that song. It's completely absurd but it's got the kind of... dead/laid back yet tricky flow, with violence etc.

You can't tell me you hear any of Relapse in "Give Me The Ball" or whatever it's called though.

I thought Superbad was summer 08, but I was wrong,

[python]

Again, Wee Weehas to be from 2008-2009, because Zach and Miri Make A Porno came out in 2008, when he was probably already out of rehab, or still in. Ballin' is too absurd, even for Eminem. Plus, his voice is basically a deeper version of his Touchdown voice.

[EminemBase]

The ones that are unknown
Wee Wee (claimed to be a warmup track, but was never confirmed. no slurred voice. Zach and Miri was released in 2008)

Clearly a hybrid of Encore and Relapse, you can hear the beginnings of Relapse in it, and it's 2008.

Obviously not 2009 as it's too sloppy and unfixed... Em had mastered the Relapse style by then, as Relapse came out early 2009, so he had obviously made the bulk in mid-late 2008...

Zach and Miri came out Oct 2008, which is weird as that's pretty late into the year... but there is parts of complexity etc., so he probably truly mastered the shit in like Nov... he must have made a shit load of material really fast then... unless this was just a fuck-around track in between to just try out new lines or flows or something.

Syllables (his voice sounds pretty normal, but people say it was recorded in 2007)

Eminem's style always denotes the era; around 2006-7 he was mostly sluggish and angry (though I believe this was more affection than people realize / think) or he resorted to his southern accent and rapped nonsense... compare his style here to "Jimmy Crack Corn" and also the Stat Quo tracks that leaked around the same time; you can hear his voice and style is of that era.

I'd say it's mid-late 2006, and possibly made for The Re-Up; doesn't sound like something he'd put on an album.

My Darling (his voice is slightly slurred, and the references sounds like something from 2007-2008, some people claim it's from 2009)

Clearly not from 09 due to the style and his rhyming etc.

You can hear the progression and his place in time from how he's spitting, and he sounds nothing like 09 Em hear and I don't just mean in tone or voice, I mean with rhyming ability and style etc.

I think he perhaps initially created an intro for King Mathers that was similar to Dr. West... as, "My Darling" is clearly the lead-in, and this intro of course mirrors the SSEP intro... and you can even hear the voice say 'my darling' in the Dr. West intro...

So, I think this was made as an opener for King Mathers.

Em mentions 'losing his wife'... which signifies this was either made prior to January 2006 aka it's an 05 track, or, it was made after the second divorce aka early 2007... I'd bet on it being the 2007 due to the darkness and lack of rhyming, as in 05... he was rhyming better, although the style is somewhat similar to "When I'm Gone".

Be Careful What You Wish For (no slurred voice, but people still claim it's from 2006-2008)

Em does have an affected, sluggy anger here... obviously a King Mathers track; you can tell not only by his rapping style, but also the rhyming style and his production.

All the King Mathers tracks are produced by him and have similar, dark, seething musicality.

I think all the King Mathers material was made 06 and 07, some are from 06, and some are from 07, but he also wrote some of the shit in 05, like part of "Beautiful"...

On here though, he says "eight years later I'm still at it", which could signify it being 2007, as 99 (debut) + 8 = 2007, BUT, he also says 'divorced, remarried...", and doesn't say divorced again, meaning it's probably before 2007, as he got divorced a second time in December 2006.

Which would also make sense as 98 (debut of first single) + 8 = 2006.

Emulate (no slurred voice, but people still claim it's from 2007-2008)

This was definitely 04-06 and probably / I think was made for Second Round's on Me.

Em's flow and lyrics are too complex to be 07 or 8, and his style is nothing like either year; he sounds like he did on some other 06 tracks such as "Hurt You" and "There They Go". 06 he was mostly talking gangsta crap though which makes me think it's a little earlier... style kinda sounds like 04 voice, so could be 04, 5 or 6 imo.

Get Money (slight slur, but sounds same as MD, which people claim is from 2009)

"Get Money" was big in 07 / when it was released... I know he could have still recorded a freestyle to it in 09 anyway but nothing about this suggests it's 09; sounds 07 - his attitude and ideas, and rhyme style all point to it being 07. It's a freestyle though, obviously not intended for an album.

The Apple (barely a slur, sounds like Encore-2006)

Too angry and growly for Encore; possibly 05... but more likely 06. Sounds like it was made for King Mathers, or in some kind of transition phase; all the King Mathers tracks have him singing and rapping angrily, and are all emotional, and are produced by him; and the rhyme style is the same.

Seems like a lot of KM material was made in 06, and he put some of it on The Re-Up, "No Apologies" for example.

[python]

all the King Mathers tracks have him singing and rapping angrily, and are all emotional

That would be a bit wrong, as "G.O.A.T" and "Ballin", which were meant for King Mathers, are goofy and barely have any singing, besides the chorus of G.O.A.T and part of the second verse of Ballin'.

[EminemBase]

all the King Mathers tracks have him singing and rapping angrily, and are all emotional

That would be a bit wrong, as "G.O.A.T" and "Ballin", which were meant for King Mathers, are goofy and barely have any singing, besides the chorus of G.O.A.T and part of the second verse of Ballin'.

Well, "Ballin'" was clearly not meant for any album lmao.

That was him fucking around; he made a statement before saying some shit he makes for himself, to laugh at, to experiment etc. and some stuff will never be heard... I'm betting that was one of those tracks. It's him being absurd, and I know he's been absurd on albums before but even in his hazy / drug phase... he had a sense of quality. No way was that for King Mathers lmao.

"G.O.A.T" is debatable too.

You can see which batch are King Mathers, they all resemble each other and fit together, as do tracks from all of his albums. As he makes albums of sound, of style...

The ones which fit together are:

- My Darling
- The Apple
- Beautiful
- Difficult
- Be Careful What You Wish For

Everything else was either fucking around, spare, or for something else.

"Syllables" for example - seems far more likely that it was for The Re-Up to me.

Way Em raps and even reverts to the southern shit like "Jimmy Crack Corn", he was in a more playful and care-free mood, and it seems too casual a concept for an album.

[UofLCard]

I thought Emulate was closer to 2003-2004.

[python]

If Wiki is right, and We Made You was recorded in Oct. 2008, then Wee Wee was most likely recorded after it.

[Mr Change]

I thought Emulate was closer to 2003-2004.

This is what I thought. He sounds too fricken good I assumed it was early 2003

[python]

- My Darling
- The Apple
- Beautiful
- Difficult
- Be Careful What You Wish For

Everything else was either fucking around, spare, or for something else.

"Syllables" for example - seems far more likely that it was for The Re-Up to me.

Way Em raps and even reverts to the southern shit like "Jimmy Crack Corn", he was in a more playful and care-free mood, and it seems too casual a concept for an album.

My Darling sounds like either a beginning, or middle track. Beautiful could easily fit as the end of the album, as it is more of a triumphant track.

[smash]

I don't know if it proves anything, but Syllables was supposed to be the first single of Cashis' debut on Shady, wich was scheduled to happen on early 2009. You can search on Cashis' twitter page... there's tweets about it. He called the song Happy Birthday or something like that.

[Guess_Who]

I really like My darling, the hook is great. I also love The apple.

ballin uncontrollably is like a big joke, would be funny to see him recording that.

[python]

His "Southern" accent is not fake, or put on, as he does the exact same thing in My 1st Single, the final song recorded for Encore. His voice on G.O.A.T and M1S is the same, and it was just a side-effect of the drugs. The Apple was most likely recorded after rehab, but before his addiction that landed him in rehab.