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Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

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Best Artist Em has signed to Shady records? based on quality of music/talent/material released

50 Cent
24
50%
D12
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2%
Obie Trice
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6%
Cashis
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2%
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Bobby Creekwater
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4%
Yelawolf
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33%
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Total votes : 48

Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby BlueberryWun » May 8th, '13, 17:02

You say Yelawolf is so creative so diffrent, so original @ Eminembase, but what has Yelawolf rapped about that has never been rapped about before numerous times by numerous other rappers?
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Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby EminemBase » May 8th, '13, 17:05

BlueberryWun wrote:@ Eminembase just cus you don't think it's a classic doesn't mean plenty of others like fans, critics, peers do not. Great song writting is more important than anything you said. If creating a hit that still is memorable 10 years later is so 'easy' fam den why do so many rappers struggle to make hits? you can't just apply your criteria to what you think is great homie. Your criteria isn't neccesarily the same as others.


When did I say they didn't?

I've already said I respect the fact it's seen as a classic, and accept that it generally is. But to me it's not a personal classic as I never listen to it, and it's not very memorable.

Also, 50 isn't a great songwriter.

He basically spits the same verse over any song regardless of the concept...

The tracks on Get Rich are great due to two things: production. And hooks.

Good hooks doesn't make him a great songwriter.
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Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby BILI » May 8th, '13, 17:12

50 cent easily
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Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby BlueberryWun » May 8th, '13, 17:16

EminemBase wrote:
BlueberryWun wrote:@ Eminembase just cus you don't think it's a classic doesn't mean plenty of others like fans, critics, peers do not. Great song writting is more important than anything you said. If creating a hit that still is memorable 10 years later is so 'easy' fam den why do so many rappers struggle to make hits? you can't just apply your criteria to what you think is great homie. Your criteria isn't neccesarily the same as others.


When did I say they didn't?

I've already said I respect the fact it's seen as a classic, and accept that it generally is. But to me it's not a personal classic as I never listen to it, and it's not very memorable.

Also, 50 isn't a great songwriter.

He basically spits the same verse over any song regardless of the concept...

The tracks on Get Rich are great due to two things: production. And hooks.

Good hooks doesn't make him a great songwriter.


So Baltimore Love Story is about the same topic as In Da Club? Many Men is about the same concept as Candy Shop? The Good Die Young is about the same theme as My Life?
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Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby Rafael » May 8th, '13, 17:55

BlueberryWun wrote:
EminemBase wrote:
BlueberryWun wrote:@ Eminembase just cus you don't think it's a classic doesn't mean plenty of others like fans, critics, peers do not. Great song writting is more important than anything you said. If creating a hit that still is memorable 10 years later is so 'easy' fam den why do so many rappers struggle to make hits? you can't just apply your criteria to what you think is great homie. Your criteria isn't neccesarily the same as others.


When did I say they didn't?

I've already said I respect the fact it's seen as a classic, and accept that it generally is. But to me it's not a personal classic as I never listen to it, and it's not very memorable.

Also, 50 isn't a great songwriter.

He basically spits the same verse over any song regardless of the concept...

The tracks on Get Rich are great due to two things: production. And hooks.

Good hooks doesn't make him a great songwriter.


So Baltimore Love Story is about the same topic as In Da Club? Many Men is about the same concept as Candy Shop? The Good Die Young is about the same theme as My Life?

You're quoting songs from different albums. I love fifty. But I can't seem to see why he uses the same topics for the wrong themes. Example: "Bang! Off with your brain" on New Day. This song is supposed to be inpirational, yet he's still talking about killing people. Just an example.
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Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby EminemBase » May 8th, '13, 17:57

^ Exactly. No consistency.

Rarely does he stick to a concept, or have one.

He may have vague hook concepts and have a few lines here or there, but then he starts rambling his usual shit about his money, his mock philosophy, and the usual talk, over and over.
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Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby BlueberryWun » May 8th, '13, 18:09

EminemBase wrote:^ Exactly. No consistency.

Rarely does he stick to a concept, or have one.

He may have vague hook concepts and have a few lines here or there, but then he starts rambling his usual shit about his money, his mock philosophy, and the usual talk, over and over.


That's what people said about Relapse but u digg that unless i'm mistaken so i don't see where ya coming from. It can't be 1 rule for 1 artist and another rule for another artist my g
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Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby Rafael » May 8th, '13, 18:29

BlueberryWun wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^ Exactly. No consistency.

Rarely does he stick to a concept, or have one.

He may have vague hook concepts and have a few lines here or there, but then he starts rambling his usual shit about his money, his mock philosophy, and the usual talk, over and over.


That's what people said about Relapse but u digg that unless i'm mistaken so i don't see where ya coming from. It can't be 1 rule for 1 artist and another rule for another artist my g

We are you talking about?!? Relapse was nowhere near that!
BlueberryWun wrote:You say Yelawolf is so creative so diffrent, so original @ Eminembase, but what has Yelawolf rapped about that has never been rapped about before numerous times by numerous other rappers?

Why do you keep contradicting yourself? If the stuff YELAWOLF has rapped about has been covered millions of times before... the stuff 50 Cent and Boosie have talked about had been rapped BILLIONS and TRILLIONS of times then.
And btw, I've heard Yelawolf rap about things that I've never heard in another rap song.
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Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby BlueberryWun » May 8th, '13, 18:59

N-R-G wrote:
BlueberryWun wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^ Exactly. No consistency.

Rarely does he stick to a concept, or have one.

He may have vague hook concepts and have a few lines here or there, but then he starts rambling his usual shit about his money, his mock philosophy, and the usual talk, over and over.


That's what people said about Relapse but u digg that unless i'm mistaken so i don't see where ya coming from. It can't be 1 rule for 1 artist and another rule for another artist my g

We are you talking about?!? Relapse was nowhere near that!
BlueberryWun wrote:You say Yelawolf is so creative so diffrent, so original @ Eminembase, but what has Yelawolf rapped about that has never been rapped about before numerous times by numerous other rappers?

Why do you keep contradicting yourself? If the stuff YELAWOLF has rapped about has been covered millions of times before... the stuff 50 Cent and Boosie have talked about had been rapped BILLIONS and TRILLIONS of times then.
And btw, I've heard Yelawolf rap about things that I've never heard in another rap song.



I'm not the 1 that bought up originallity good music is just good music> there is no such thing as what Eminembase think there is cus every topic under the sun, every subject has been rapped about. So ask him why he bring up that void opinion.
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Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby B.A.D. » May 9th, '13, 00:21

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Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby AbramIsaac » May 9th, '13, 00:24

BlueberryWun wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^ Exactly. No consistency.

Rarely does he stick to a concept, or have one.

He may have vague hook concepts and have a few lines here or there, but then he starts rambling his usual shit about his money, his mock philosophy, and the usual talk, over and over.


That's what people said about Relapse but u digg that unless i'm mistaken so i don't see where ya coming from. It can't be 1 rule for 1 artist and another rule for another artist my g

Even if the argument was made that Relapse was repetitive conceptually, it was done in such a skillful way that it pretty much negates the issue. If you can't say something different, you need to be sure to do it in a different way. That's where people feel like 50 Cent falls short.
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Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby Francesco » May 9th, '13, 00:24

B.A.D. wrote:50


50 off the hook!

B.A.D. back to the mod squad! :y:
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Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby Rafael » May 9th, '13, 00:39

The reason why I think 50 isn't as popular as he was before is because of that reason. He raps about the same topic too much. He never really grew as an artist.
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Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby Snakebeast » May 9th, '13, 01:55

BlueberryWun wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^ Exactly. No consistency.

Rarely does he stick to a concept, or have one.

He may have vague hook concepts and have a few lines here or there, but then he starts rambling his usual shit about his money, his mock philosophy, and the usual talk, over and over.


That's what people said about Relapse but u digg that unless i'm mistaken so i don't see where ya coming from. It can't be 1 rule for 1 artist and another rule for another artist my g


Fuck no. Don't you even compare Relapse to the dogshit that 50 Cent puts out.

Relapse was a concept album that focused on the idea of Eminem becoming a serial killer (no, not Slim Shady, an ACTUAL SERIAL KILLER). It took all parts of Eminem's persona and background and exaggerated them to a massive extent.

Issues with mother and drug abuse? My Mom. Mariah Carey? Bagpipes from Baghdad. Daddy issues? Insane. Problems with women? SSAD, Hello, Stay Wide Awake, etc.. Every song had a murderous feel to it, even the ones where it was basically partying/drugs i.e. Old Time's Sake and Must Be the Ganja, both of which had him rap about murder.

It was Eminem's delightful romp through a fantasyland where he ruled supreme. Then everything came crashing down with Deja Vu and the skit before it, which shows that the entire album thus far was Em recounting his entire career mashed together. The murderous shit came from SSLP, the subject matter from MMLP and Eminem Show(i.e. Kim, Cleaning Out My Closet), and the accent from Encore.

Then after Deja Vu (notice: no accent) we had Beautiful (no accent either), which was a depressed Eminem forced back into the world after his rehab. Crack a Bottle (no accent) was his celebratory song. Underground represented Eminem getting serious again and getting back into the game (hence the normal sharp tone of his voice).

Now, if you fucking think that 50 made anything even REMOTELY close to that, you're insane (no pun intended).
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Re: Best Artist Em has ever signed to Shady records?

Postby EminemBase » May 9th, '13, 13:08

BlueberryWun wrote:
EminemBase wrote:^ Exactly. No consistency.

Rarely does he stick to a concept, or have one.

He may have vague hook concepts and have a few lines here or there, but then he starts rambling his usual shit about his money, his mock philosophy, and the usual talk, over and over.


That's what people said about Relapse but u digg that unless i'm mistaken so i don't see where ya coming from. It can't be 1 rule for 1 artist and another rule for another artist my g


But Em on Relapse is MASTERFUL.

He raps about the same few topics within the entire album as it's a concept album proposing a fictional, murderous, drug-raging, anti-societal 'relapse'...

But even if he had JUST rapped about murder... his rapping is so intensely brilliant that it doesn't matter. 50 however is not and never has been a brilliant rapper, so if not for his subject-matter... what else are you supposed to be getting from him... ?

Eminem is densely original. He may rap within similar waters in terms of subject-matter, but the WAY he does it is consistently evolving and consistently innovative. He's a much, much, much smarter lyricist, intellect, wordsmith, and artist in general. There's no comparison.
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