Generally from most fans opinion wats his worst album

[EminemBase]

I'd say Encore... though an argument could be made for Recovery given how god awful some elements of it are; but I think overall, the songs are too generally badass, with so many high-points...

It's certainly not Relapse. Bar "Beautiful" and "Crack a Bottle", Relapse is amazing.

So yeah, pretty predictably - I'd say Encore.

[Snakebeast]

I'd say Encore... though an argument could be made for Recovery given how god awful some elements of it are; but I think overall, the songs are too generally badass, with so many high-points...

It's certainly not Relapse. Bar "Beautiful" and "Crack a Bottle", Relapse is amazing.

So yeah, pretty predictably - I'd say Encore.

I thought both Beautiful and Crack a Bottle fit into Relapse perfectly. If he was doing what I thought he was doing. And yeah. Encore. It was probably the most disappointing album I've ever heard.

[sbolli1]

If your answer isn't Encore, you're wrong.

[UofLCard]

Encore

[EminemBase]

I'd say Encore... though an argument could be made for Recovery given how god awful some elements of it are; but I think overall, the songs are too generally badass, with so many high-points...

It's certainly not Relapse. Bar "Beautiful" and "Crack a Bottle", Relapse is amazing.

So yeah, pretty predictably - I'd say Encore.

I thought both Beautiful and Crack a Bottle fit into Relapse perfectly. If he was doing what I thought he was doing. And yeah. Encore. It was probably the most disappointing album I've ever heard.

Except they didn't.

Neither was made for the album, and it's painfully obvious. Neither fit stylistically.

"Crack a Bottle" was made for 50's, and "Beautiful" was made for King Mathers, hence why it sounds like 05-7 material, and nothing like Relapse material, since it wasn't made for it. But rather put on the album as a safety net single since they had nothing else to run with.

If you're going to say that it fits conceptually as it's after "Deja Vu", I've heard that and once again I'll say it's not the concept, or the lyrics, it's the STYLE, the music and rap style.

I think it's very obvious that the 'real Relapse' ends @ "Deja Vu"... as he goes 'through the Relapse', then he collapses and wakes up and reflects on what happened... the track even fades out as if it's the last track. Then you have three unecessary tracks tacked on the end:

"Beautiful" and "Crack a Bottle" as they were singles, and then he ends with "Underground" probably so that it didn't end on a bizarre single aka the reason he goes so hard on "Underground" and probably why there's no accent, as it was recorded last, separate to the main batch.

Relapse is fucking perfect if it ends at "Deja Vu" and fades out... would have been one of my favourite Em albums period.

[infinite2hts]

@Embase lol it seems CAB & beautifull really seem to ruin relapse for u seeing how many times u have told the same thing. i see what u mean that the different sound of these two songs doesnt fit in. I dont think a unified style and sound is a major factor to say whether an album is classic or not. It doesnt bothers me to have songs varying in sound and style as far as they are good. And beautifull & CAB(For me) are good. And imo Medicine Ball and We Made You hurt relapse more than those two.

[Francesco]

Neither was made for the album, and it's painfully obvious. Neither fit stylistically.
"Crack a Bottle" was made for 50's....

Definitely not. It was recorded during the first session for Relapse which was in LA before they went to Las Vegas & Florida for the other sessions. 50 was not even originally on it as the stolen & leaked original demo has Em doing all verses & none of it is for 50.

Most of it on that original demo Em says The platinum duo... & on the officially released version he says The platinum trio...

50 was added later on as a part of that There headed monster commercial campaign & was about to claim that track only after Em was hesitating about it 'cuz of the critical response but they shifted the release dates for Relapse & BISD so it got back on Em's album . They kinda didn't even have a choice at this point 'cuz it ridiculously took off & went to be a rare #1 Em record at the time.

As a matter a fact that's the major reason why Bishop Lamont was dropped from Aftermath too. He was interviewed on the radio & when the interviewers said the song was awful he ridiculously agreed with 'em on air.
The backlash made Interscope execs ask any of Em, Dre & 50 to claim it at some point & it could have went in all 3 directions but it was recorded during Relapse first studio session anyway. I agree it was forced into the album 'cuz Em didn't want it at some point but it was done for Relapse.

[Just Silver]

It either infinite or encore and most won't count infinite

[EminemBase]

Neither was made for the album, and it's painfully obvious. Neither fit stylistically.
"Crack a Bottle" was made for 50's....

Definitely not. It was recorded during the first session for Relapse which was in LA before they went to Las Vegas & Florida for the other sessions. 50 was not even originally on it as the stolen & leaked original demo has Em doing all verses & none of it is for 50.

Most of it on that original demo Em says The platinum duo... & on the officially released version he says The platinum trio...

50 was added later on as a part of that There headed monster commercial campaign & was about to claim that track only after Em was hesitating about it 'cuz of the critical response but they shifted the release dates for Relapse & BISD so it got back on Em's album . They kinda didn't even have a choice at this point 'cuz it ridiculously took off & went to be a rare #1 Em record at the time.

As a matter a fact that's the major reason why Bishop Lamont was dropped from Aftermath too. He was interviewed on the radio & when the interviewers said the song was awful he ridiculously agreed with 'em on air.
The backlash made Interscope execs ask any of Em, Dre & 50 to claim it at some point & it could have went in all 3 directions but it was recorded during Relapse first studio session anyway. I agree it was forced into the album 'cuz Em didn't want it at some point but it was done for Relapse.

50 said it was for his album, I know Em originally says 'platinum duo' implying him and Dre, but maybe then when 50 jumped on it they decided it was for 50's.

[Francesco]

Neither was made for the album, and it's painfully obvious. Neither fit stylistically.
"Crack a Bottle" was made for 50's....

Definitely not. It was recorded during the first session for Relapse which was in LA before they went to Las Vegas & Florida for the other sessions. 50 was not even originally on it as the stolen & leaked original demo has Em doing all verses & none of it is for 50.
Most of it on that original demo Em says The platinum duo... & on the officially released version he says The platinum trio...
50 was added later on as a part of that There headed monster commercial campaign & was about to claim that track only after Em was hesitating about it 'cuz of the critical response but they shifted the release dates for Relapse & BISD so it got back on Em's album . They kinda didn't even have a choice at this point 'cuz it ridiculously took off & went to be a rare #1 Em record at the time.
As a matter a fact that's the major reason why Bishop Lamont was dropped from Aftermath too. He was interviewed on the radio & when the interviewers said the song was awful he ridiculously agreed with 'em on air.
The backlash made Interscope execs ask any of Em, Dre & 50 to claim it at some point & it could have went in all 3 directions but it was recorded during Relapse first studio session anyway. I agree it was forced into the album 'cuz Em didn't want it at some point but it was done for Relapse.

50 said it was for his album, I know Em originally says 'platinum duo' implying him and Dre, but maybe then when 50 jumped on it they decided it was for 50's.

50 was about to claim it when Em wanted to ditch it & he said it is on his album when he was doing a BISD promo interview way after it was announced as Em's first single but like I said it was originally recorded for Relapse in the first session in LA. I thought you meant it was literally recorded for BISD... that's why I put it that way.

[EminemBase]

@Embase lol it seems CAB & beautifull really seem to ruin relapse for u seeing how many times u have told the same thing. i see what u mean that the different sound of these two songs doesnt fit in. I dont think a unified style and sound is a major factor to say whether an album is classic or not. It doesnt bothers me to have songs varying in sound and style as far as they are good. And beautifull & CAB(For me) are good. And imo Medicine Ball and We Made You hurt relapse more than those two.

"Medicine Ball" is one of my favourite Relapse tracks, and "We Made You" is badass. His rapping is badass, the style is completely new, and detailed and musical as fuck, I love it.

And I absolutely think a unified sound is important to a classic.

All of Em's first three albums had unified styles. Styles of music can vary and even subject-matter can very but there needs to be a style that ties the tracks together... and, it's especially noticeable with Relapse due to HOW different and weird that style is.

Like i said many times I know, but to me... it'd be like having "When I'm Gone" on SSLP. That's the contrast of rap style I hear between "Beautiful" and the rest.

[EminemBase]

50 was about to claim it when Em wanted to ditch it & he said it is on his album when he was doing a BISD promo interview way after it was announced as Em's first single but like I said it was originally recorded for Relapse in the first session in LA. I thought you meant it was literally recorded for BISD... that's why I put it that way.

It was so sloppy for Em to even allow it to go on Relapse too though...

Like, I think you're right in that it was perhaps one of the very first Relapse tracks as, musically... it doesn't sound that out of place. The beat has that same carnival bombast that the others do, and Em's style on his verse is Relapse-ish. The way he's rhyming is like Relapse and it has that sing-songy bunched-up flow... but it's not fully crafted yet, you can tell it was him getting in to it.

But, after such a long absence, to just allow yourself to be re introduced via a leaked corny demo thing and just have it on the album as a single... should have ditched it for sure.

[Francesco]

50 was about to claim it when Em wanted to ditch it & he said it is on his album when he was doing a BISD promo interview way after it was announced as Em's first single but like I said it was originally recorded for Relapse in the first session in LA. I thought you meant it was literally recorded for BISD... that's why I put it that way.

It was so sloppy for Em to even allow it to go on Relapse too though...
Like, I think you're right in that it was perhaps one of the very first Relapse tracks as, musically... it doesn't sound that out of place. The beat has that same carnival bombast that the others do, and Em's style on his verse is Relapse-ish. The way he's rhyming is like Relapse and it has that sing-songy bunched-up flow... but it's not fully crafted yet, you can tell it was him getting in to it.
But, after such a long absence, to just allow yourself to be re introduced via a leaked corny demo thing and just have it on the album as a single... should have ditched it for sure.

The thing is they fucked up indeed & ruined the impact of such great album just 'cuz of the bad marketing... Em never wanted to ditch CAB before the negative feedback & even defended it when it leaked but then didn't want it at all after the backlash piled up.

Like I previously said they didn't really have a choice when it took off that hard but the whole thing with CAB been a first single with no video & then We Made you been the second - first single with a video followed by 3AM been the third single with a video in which they show a part of the CAB alleged official video that supposed to be officially released after the third single but wasn't cuz it got even worse feedback than the song itself was totally ridiculous.
The other thing is... I love We made you too but the ridiculous hook was forced into it as well... Em's hooks on his goofy songs made them that special. They should have stuck to it rather than looking for a radio friendly hook.
They were desperate not to fuck up Em's sales as he was coming back & handled anything on the way really really bad... from the initial release & the singles mix up to leaking the bonus tracks right after the album leaked & people started to complain about the accents... then from scrapping the officially announced second part of the album to re-releasing the first part with someone else's song plus whooping 6 new ones on it. I couldn't believe that was happening tbh... it was totally amateur & definitely ridiculous.

[EminemBase]

50 was about to claim it when Em wanted to ditch it & he said it is on his album when he was doing a BISD promo interview way after it was announced as Em's first single but like I said it was originally recorded for Relapse in the first session in LA. I thought you meant it was literally recorded for BISD... that's why I put it that way.

It was so sloppy for Em to even allow it to go on Relapse too though...
Like, I think you're right in that it was perhaps one of the very first Relapse tracks as, musically... it doesn't sound that out of place. The beat has that same carnival bombast that the others do, and Em's style on his verse is Relapse-ish. The way he's rhyming is like Relapse and it has that sing-songy bunched-up flow... but it's not fully crafted yet, you can tell it was him getting in to it.
But, after such a long absence, to just allow yourself to be re introduced via a leaked corny demo thing and just have it on the album as a single... should have ditched it for sure.

The thing is they fucked up indeed & ruined the impact of such great album just 'cuz of the bad marketing... Em never wanted to ditch CAB before the negative feedback & even defended it when it leaked but then didn't want it at all after the backlash piled up.

Like I previously said they didn't really have a choice when it took off that hard but the whole thing with CAB been a first single with no video & then We Made you been the second - first single with a video followed by 3AM been the third single with a video in which they show a part of the CAB alleged official video that supposed to be officially released after the third single but wasn't cuz it got even worse feedback than the song itself was totally ridiculous.
The other thing is... I love We made you too but the ridiculous hook was forced into it as well... Em's hooks on his goofy songs made them that special. They should have stuck to it rather than looking for a radio friendly hook.
They were desperate not to fuck up Em's sales as he was coming back & handled anything on the way really really bad... from the initial release & the singles mix up to leaking the bonus tracks right after the album leaked & people started to complain about the accents... then from scrapping the officially announced second part of the album to re-releasing the first part with someone else's song plus whooping 6 new ones on it. I couldn't believe that was happening tbh... it was totally amateur & definitely ridiculous.

Yeah, thing about "We Made You" though... I think it's one of Em's first goofy singles that fits the album the most other than perhaps "Without Me"...

It TOTALLY fits Relapse and I think sums it up beautifully too. Doesn't feel like it's for its own sake or a self-parody; it presents the Relapse style and Em's schtick in a new way... I think though man, if you look at the Relapse tracklist like -do it now in your mind - it's so obvious to me that it was supposed to end @ "Deja Vu". You can see that from track 1 to that track, that's the album Em had worked out, and it flows fucking perfect... I don't know why I can't get past a couple of tracks ruining it for me... but if it ends at "Deja Vu" it's a classic to me. I'm gonna listen now actually, I love the fuck out of it.

[Francesco]

Yeah, thing about "We Made You" though... I think it's one of Em's first goofy singles that fits the album the most other than perhaps "Without Me"...
It TOTALLY fits Relapse and I think sums it up beautifully too. Doesn't feel like it's for its own sake or a self-parody; it presents the Relapse style and Em's schtick in a new way... I think though man, if you look at the Relapse tracklist like -do it now in your mind - it's so obvious to me that it was supposed to end @ "Deja Vu". You can see that from track 1 to that track, that's the album Em had worked out, and it flows fucking perfect... I don't know why I can't get past a couple of tracks ruining it for me... but if it ends at "Deja Vu" it's a classic to me. I'm gonna listen now actually, I love the fuck out of it.

I agree We made you fits perfectly on the album... I just think it would've been way better if they didn't look for some radio friendly hook & let Em do it himself.
It is a classic album to me too... we could only imagine how great would it be if the second part came right after & made it complete.