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Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

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Re: Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

Postby Just Silver » May 16th, '13, 23:45

InsaneTRex94 wrote:If a fag like Danny Brown can get mainstream recognition, so can Yelawolf.

What's his mainstream debut?
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Re: Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

Postby Trimss » May 16th, '13, 23:48

InsaneTRex94 wrote:Add Trinidad James to that too.


Trinidad sold like 11000 album first week man. Not really mainstream recognition lol, sure he had a hit but that's it.
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Re: Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

Postby BlueberryWun » May 17th, '13, 00:14

Yes definitley think it will. He is not marketable to females.
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Re: Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

Postby Tornado » May 17th, '13, 00:54

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Trimss wrote:But Eminem won't do that. Yela will be on a bonus track if he's lucky.

^ Sad but true.
Why the fuck can't Em promote Yela like he did with Obie. Yela >>>>> Obie in every way possible..


It's not like Em did great promotion work for Obie either. Or any other solo shady artist bar 50
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Re: Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

Postby Rafael » May 17th, '13, 03:06

Tornado wrote:
N-R-G wrote:
Trimss wrote:But Eminem won't do that. Yela will be on a bonus track if he's lucky.

^ Sad but true.
Why the fuck can't Em promote Yela like he did with Obie. Yela >>>>> Obie in every way possible..


It's not like Em did great promotion work for Obie either. Or any other solo shady artist bar 50

200k+ First week sales and a platimum plaque for Cheers isn't exactly what I call bad promotion.
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Re: Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

Postby AbramIsaac » May 17th, '13, 06:34

Sales aside, the promotion for Obie trice makes what he did for Yelawolf look like a joke.

It's to be expected though, in some ways. Yelawolf needs to be able to stand out on his own more, being a white rapper. The co-sign helps him, but he doesn't need to look like some guy that's only getting on because the king cracker gave him the nod. Where Obie needed to appeal to Eminem's audience (hence the clip in the beginning of "Without Me", multiple features, and even little mixtape skits, along with the D12 introduction), Yelawolf doesn't necessarily fit that mold.

Beyond that, Obie Trice was the first solo artist signed to Shady Records. His success was important, in order to establish Shady Records as a brand that consisted of more than Eminem and his friends from childhood. Yelawolf and Slaughterhouse are important to the brand as well, but Yelawolf just doesn't have that same connection with Eminem's core audience, making it difficult to use the one trick that Shady Records has always used (with relative success) for their artists.

Yelawolf needs Shady Records if he's going to stay on Interscope, as he needs a boutique style label to keep him from getting lost in the shuffle. That said, don't expect Shady Records to do much for him. That's still better than the alternative of getting lost in the Interscope machine...

It'll work until it won't, and then he'll likely go independent. Since they've had an independent mindset at Ghet-O-Vision since it was clear that the backing for Radioactive was lukewarm at best on the part of Interscope, they'll do just fine if something were to happen and everyone parted on good terms. Hopefully it won't come to that though, and they'll get their shit together next time around at Shady/Interscope.

Oh, and his appearance won't hurt him that much. Eventually, people will see anything as sexy if they're told that it's sexy enough times.
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Re: Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

Postby cheeseburger » May 17th, '13, 06:49

Going independent got me thinking.
Imagine, just imagine that after a couple of years and Yela still doesnt get enough recognition and help from Shady, he quits pissed of. Signs with Funk Volume and just lashes out at Shady, completely furious.
Than we would have a clash of the titans. Slaughterhouse vs Hop, Swizzz, Jarren and Dizzy. Yela vs Eminem :flutter: :flutter:
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Re: Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

Postby Rafael » May 17th, '13, 21:54

cheeseburger wrote:Going independent got me thinking.
Imagine, just imagine that after a couple of years and Yela still doesnt get enough recognition and help from Shady, he quits pissed of. Signs with Funk Volume and just lashes out at Shady, completely furious.
Than we would have a clash of the titans. Slaughterhouse vs Hop, Swizzz, Jarren and Dizzy. Yela vs Eminem :flutter: :flutter:

There are so many things wrong with the fantasy above... Its disgusting...

First of all, in no way will Funk Volume will do a better job promoting Yela than Shady.

Second, Yela wasn't necessarily mad that they weren't promoting him. He was mad that he made a radio compromised album with no promotion.And he's done making compromised albums so its good now.

Third, there's almost a 0% chance that Yela will sign with FV. He doesn't fit in, it would be a bad choice. I can see him with every other label than FV

Fourth, Yela would never go against a label that once helped him out. Plus he knows going against Em is like a death sentence in this industry.

Fifth, Why would Hopsin endorse going against Shady? His two favorite rappers (Crooked I, Eminem) are on that label.

I just don't see anything of what you said happening, and in no way would I find it awesome. Sorry.
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Re: Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

Postby cheeseburger » May 17th, '13, 22:17

Are you on your period or what? Lol
I dont want it to happen, nor can I see it happen.

Transformers is awesome, and I think its cool as fuck! But ofcourse it cant happen in reality..
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Re: Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

Postby Rafael » May 18th, '13, 00:26

cheeseburger wrote:Are you on your period or what? Lol
I dont want it to happen, nor can I see it happen.

Transformers is awesome, and I think its cool as fuck! But ofcourse it cant happen in reality..

No malice inteaded Cheeseburger. You know I love you. :wub:
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Re: Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

Postby cheeseburger » May 18th, '13, 05:48

No worries, I was drunk when I wrote the response. Lol what an awful comparisson with the transformera I did.
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Re: Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

Postby EminemBase » May 18th, '13, 08:43

Possibly, although... there's been plenty of rock stars and musical stars from other genres with this kind of appearance... so I don't see why it truly would/should.

Initially - because his appearance doesn't conform, and because A&R presumes young girls only like clean shaven etc. (I think there's some evidence to support it which is why leading men often are etc.) - but a lot of Yela's fans are probably rock fans and a lot of rock fans cross over in to hip-hop, particularly with Em and probably now Yela, so he's pretty much appealing to his own demographic...

And, I'd imagine on some level it's him rebelling, perhaps subconsciously, I doubt he consciously sat and thought of doing it for this reason (though he may have) - rebelling against label execs and criticism aimed at Radioactive, having an appearance like he does now says he's his own man. A beard is a sign of masculinity and also not being clean shaven, drinking etc., it's like he's acting out, trying to separate himself from the clean and squeaky expectations and limitations of a major.
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Re: Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

Postby Francesco » May 18th, '13, 12:02

EminemBase wrote:Possibly, although... there's been plenty of rock stars and musical stars from other genres with this kind of appearance... so I don't see why it truly would/should.
Initially - because his appearance doesn't conform, and because A&R presumes young girls only like clean shaven etc. (I think there's some evidence to support it which is why leading men often are etc.) - but a lot of Yela's fans are probably rock fans and a lot of rock fans cross over in to hip-hop, particularly with Em and probably now Yela, so he's pretty much appealing to his own demographic...
And, I'd imagine on some level it's him rebelling, perhaps subconsciously, I doubt he consciously sat and thought of doing it for this reason (though he may have) - rebelling against label execs and criticism aimed at Radioactive, having an appearance like he does now says he's his own man. A beard is a sign of masculinity and also not being clean shaven, drinking etc., it's like he's acting out, trying to separate himself from the clean and squeaky expectations and limitations of a major.


That's true but trashy looking rock stars hardly appeal to the mainstream & sell nowadays.
That was the idea of the so called New Rock actually...They still suppose to look rebel-ish but at the same time fresh & clean & most of it appealing for not just their core of fans but pretty much generally.
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Re: Will Yela's appearance hinder him from the mainstream?

Postby Rafael » May 18th, '13, 14:57

EminemBase wrote:And, I'd imagine on some level it's him rebelling, perhaps subconsciously, I doubt he consciously sat and thought of doing it for this reason (though he may have) - rebelling against label execs and criticism aimed at Radioactive, having an appearance like he does now says he's his own man. A beard is a sign of masculinity and also not being clean shaven, drinking etc., it's like he's acting out, trying to separate himself from the clean and squeaky expectations and limitations of a major.

I never thought of it that way. People kept saying Radioactive was sqeaky-clean pop music so afterwards he made himself as grimy as can be. That theory makes a lot of sense in a way.
cheeseburger wrote:No worries, I was drunk when I wrote the response. Lol what an awful comparisson with the transformera I did.

Lol I was hungover and grouchy when I wrote my response. When I got home from work I was like "Was I really that butthurt over it this morning? Wow..."
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