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Roundup: What the Critics are saying about 'Berzerk'

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Re: Roundup: What the Critics are saying about 'Berzerk'

Postby Mr Change » Aug 29th, '13, 03:33

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Evil-Genius wrote:I am positive MMLP2 will be a classic , I just hope royce will be on a track with him


I agree, I think we're in for a classic album.

And I was very far from thinking that before I saw the VMA's.



This got me thinking.

All this talk about part 2's and stuff...I think it's actually highly likely we may get a Bad Meets Evil pt 2 on this LP tbh :b:
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Re: Roundup: What the Critics are saying about 'Berzerk'

Postby rockbottom » Aug 29th, '13, 03:40

I wouldn't mind a bad meets evil track as long as it's in the mould of the original, or a kiss or the reunion. That would be sick.

I'm more interested in Kendrick, Tyler and Yelawolf features though to be honest. Although a part of me fears Yelawolf might bring out the worst in em and he'd use an overly fast, choppy awkward flow.
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Re: Roundup: What the Critics are saying about 'Berzerk'

Postby Snakebeast » Aug 29th, '13, 03:55

Menzo wrote:Complex (lol) reviewed the song, pretty interesting take on it.

http://www.complexmag.ca/music/2013/08/ ... erk-review

That was....surprisingly analytic and well-thought-out. Holy shit, that was a great read :y: Author's not biased at all.
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Re: Roundup: What the Critics are saying about 'Berzerk'

Postby CallMeBDB » Aug 29th, '13, 12:24

Complex posted an interesting review of the track (not the one quoted in the OP).

I'm not sure on the rules for posting links and what not.. so I'll just post some quotes:


"As we've seen this week, music consumption and criticism is a different ball game in 2013. What's most subversive aren't Eminem's jabs at celebrities, but a 20-year-old's raunchy stage performance [Miley at the VMAs]."

"'Berzerk' is understandably difficult to grasp. Popular music has been so inundated with EDM and trap sounds that the single's aggressive homage to 1980s hip-hop is in complete contrast to the sound of today's music."

"But Eminem’s singles were always tough to digest. "My Name Is" was not congruent with the Swizz-led sound of Jay Z and DMX. Neither was "The Real Slim Shady" or "Without Me" in line with Irv and Jeff. But in an era before social media and instantaneous, communal reaction to big events, Em's natch for attacking celebs for things they did months ago was titilating, intriguing, and relatively timely. His first singles used to be like a News Feed in song form, and he benefited greatly from it. The work he put in then to establish himself as a top tier artist, and the 100 million-plus records sold as a result, is why his new music matters now. After 15 years of dominance, the mere existence of a new Eminem song is an event, and no amount of backlash against how it sounds can deter that."

"So why will "Berzerk" be successful in spite of any sonic criticism? For one, it's Eminem, but as stated earlier, calling Eminem successful for selling a lot of records is like giving Tom Brady a pat on the back for throwing one touchdown. It's cool, but more is required by virtue of the standard he's set for himself. The thing is, "Berzerk" meets that standard, and if anything, the one part of the song no so directly inspired by the ‘80s—its distinctly Slim Shadian chorus—will be right at home on radio. The familiarity of Eminem’s voice has credibility and leverage in the pop realm that’s hard to compete with."

"This is not to say that mainstream gratification is the end-all, but the inevitable success of "Berzerk" in that arena is why Eminem will remain relevant to the greater conversation. And like all the other Eminem albums preceded by singles that made conservative rap fans grimace, the long player will deliver elite, undeniable bars. So, yes, he’s back."



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Re: Roundup: What the Critics are saying about 'Berzerk'

Postby Kill You » Aug 30th, '13, 03:28

^ What did you think of the song, I'm really interested to hear your input.
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Re: Roundup: What the Critics are saying about 'Berzerk'

Postby Snakebeast » Aug 30th, '13, 03:33

Amadeo wrote:
Snake897 wrote:
Menzo wrote:Complex (lol) reviewed the song, pretty interesting take on it.

http://www.complexmag.ca/music/2013/08/ ... erk-review

That was....surprisingly analytic and well-thought-out. Holy shit, that was a great read :y: Author's not biased at all.

What was analytical about it?

Just another example of an incompetent writer who doesn't deserve to be a professional. The very few times he dares to comment on the lyrics of the song, he sounds ignorant.

'On "Berzerk," Eminem goes full nostalgic, employing a rhyming style reminiscent of the Beastie Boys, and 30 years after the Beastie Boys' debut single, that may be tougher to digest.' A rhyming style, eh? So the Beastie Boys were writing 3-5 syllable multis all over the place? He means "delivery." Rap critics don't know the first thing about rhyming styles, patterns, or even multis. They hide behind stupid phrases like "lyrical gymnastics" to pretend they know what they're talking about.

"the one part of the song no so directly inspired by the ‘80s—its distinctly Slim Shadian chorus—will be right at home on radio." Huh? Eminem is singing along/referencing the guitar melody from The Strokes, a 1981 song. A vocal sample from the song is even used at the end. The chorus is about as '80s as you can get.

Those are the only things the writer actually comments on, in terms of lyrics. The rest is just idiotic discussion of Eminem's "cultural relevance." You can gauge how dim a reviewer is by how much he brings up "relevance" or "celebrity bashing." And most other magazines spew the same bullshit.

Probably should've said analytic and well-thought-out...for Complex. Judging from what I've seen from them regarding ANYTHING (whether it be articles or lists) they don't seem to analyze fucking anything before making assumptions. The thing about this review is that it's not exactly going into depth reviewing Eminem's new song, but rather the effect it'll have on rap and music in general. It's not a formal review. And wasn't the "lyrical gymnastics" from that ridiculous Pitchfork website?
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Re: Roundup: What the Critics are saying about 'Berzerk'

Postby Relevancy » Aug 30th, '13, 16:29

Most messege boards I've been to all of them have been trashing this single lol. But hey if you like you like it, everyone has different tastes.
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Re: Roundup: What the Critics are saying about 'Berzerk'

Postby OMEGA » Aug 30th, '13, 22:48

Relevancy wrote:Most messege boards I've been to all of them have been trashing this single lol. But hey if you like you like it, everyone has different tastes.


It's time you stop visiting retards.com/forum and cocksuckers.com/forum then.
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Re: Roundup: What the Critics are saying about 'Berzerk'

Postby Mr Change » Aug 30th, '13, 22:49

OMEGA wrote:
Relevancy wrote:Most messege boards I've been to all of them have been trashing this single lol. But hey if you like you like it, everyone has different tastes.


It's time you stop visiting retards.com/forum and cocksuckers.com/forum then.


Second one sounds like a porn site tbh
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