Debat: Is Eminem overrated ?

[One Mic]

^ Trouble is Nas doesn't have any or many embarrasing moments, Eminem has loads. Even when Nas is at his worst the music is just boring/average, but hardly any corny moments.

Can't think of them all but FACK being on his greatest hits album for one. Encore for two. Everytime I see the video for Just Lose It / Ass Like That etc. Would never catch Nas do anything as corny or goofy as that.

Not really fair to include this sort of stuff as it wasn't supposed to be heard and leaked but shit like "Wee Wee" too. Em haters have a lot of ammo to stack against him.

[Kill You]

@ Embase: I think that's because Em looks at it like an art or a craft rather than music. His schemes are very specific. Which I love, rhyme schemes fascinate me.

[Fleka]

For me , Eminem is the greatest rapper ever. People do over the top with liking everything he does. But people also go over the top with hating him.

[Mike1]

It's not that he's overrated, it's just his fan base overhypes his shit.
Relapse/Recovery a classic? GTFO

[Elision]

I've seen people say that he's better then Nas or Rakim.

He is. In almost every regard.

Has nothing to do with lil wayne or mainstream music as a whole, it's all shit.

[King Lance]

Plus Berzerk was him fucking around and he's still rhyming better than many many mainstream rappers. Nas might be the only one who can match Em in the mainstream rapper department. Truth be told. Kendrick is very close to it as well.

imo, Nas is as good, if not better then Em.

As for kendrick, I'd say that he has a better imagery than Eminem, at least on his albums. (I only judge an artist by his albums) He literally paints pictures lyrically and the only artists I thought were better in that domain were Lupe Fiasco, Rakim and Tupac.

However, Eminem has more wordplays and better rhyme schemes.

[King Lance]

Plus Berzerk was him fucking around and he's still rhyming better than many many mainstream rappers. Nas might be the only one who can match Em in the mainstream rapper department. Truth be told. Kendrick is very close to it as well.

imo, Nas is as good, if not better then Em.

As for kendrick, I'd say that he has a better imagery than Eminem, at least on his albums. (I only judge an artist by his albums) He literally paints pictures lyrically and the only artists I thought were better in that domain were Lupe Fiasco, Rakim and Tupac.

However, Eminem has more wordplays and better rhyme schemes.

I agree about Kendrick but really, every time Em has done storytelling it's just as vivid if not more. Can't say you don't envision the scenes of "Kim" "Brain Damage", "Murder Murder" or "Same Song & Dance".

it's true, and I consider Eminem as a goat

I just changed a lot and I now enjoy poetic rappers more than punchline and "technical" rappers.
if you look at Krs One, Tupac, Rakim, and most recently Kendrick , Ab-Soul, they are more poetic/spoken word with their shit and rappers like Biggie, Lupe and Eminem are more technical, they have more multis and punchline in their shit.

I just feel like a rapper like Rakim can put you into the song with his descriptions while a rapper like Eminem can entertain you more because of his wordplays and technical abilities.

[CrashBand]

I feel most intelligent hip-hop fans I've come across agree that Eminem's first three albums were really great and he fell the fuck off.

Of course stans overate him. But every artist is overrated by their own stans/fans.

[fifflaren]

He had the best run in hip hop history (1999/2003) but he fell off, just like Nas and Jay

[Shuttle Destroyer]

Underrated
Nuff said

[Whitefox]

Jay z is fucking garbage.

[King Lance]

Underrated
Nuff said

[Mike1]

It's not that he's overrated, it's just his fan base overhypes his shit.
Relapse/Recovery a classic? GTFO

Who said Relapse and Recovery are classics?

Well for one Game said Recovery is a classic.
But nah, I was exaggerating a bit. However I wouldn't be suprised if someone is saying those are classics.

[Willy]

I like Kendrick but he is overrated.

[Elision]

I like Kendrick but he is overrated.

careful, this is TR