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How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP2?

Postby Evil Twin » Sep 6th, '13, 22:24

We were all very surprised when Dre and Rick Rubin would be executive producers for this album. Em has never worked with Rubin before and most of us are away of Rubin's career and what he has done.

So who's idea do you think it was and why do you think that person chose Rubin for this job?
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Re: How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP

Postby Trimss » Sep 6th, '13, 22:26

Rubin tries to be objective. If he doesn't like your shit he will tell you. If he thinks something is overproduced he's gonna tell you. If you're making a shitty song he's gonna tell you.

Eminem probably wanted an album influenced by old school rap, and Rubin produced some License to Ill which is one of Em's favorite album. That + needing someone who isn't a yes man in his entourage and here you go.
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Re: How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP

Postby SG. » Sep 6th, '13, 22:51

Maybe the good reviews of 13 made him more interested in approaching him.
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Re: How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP

Postby OutlawƎ » Sep 7th, '13, 19:54

Trimss wrote:Rubin tries to be objective. If he doesn't like your shit he will tell you. If he thinks something is overproduced he's gonna tell you. If you're making a shitty song he's gonna tell you.

Eminem probably wanted an album influenced by old school rap, and Rubin produced some License to Ill which is one of Em's favorite album. That + needing someone who isn't a yes man in his entourage and here you go.
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Re: How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP

Postby stigma » Sep 7th, '13, 19:56

Could be that Eminem isn't feeling the new sound of today's hip-hop and wanted to take it back to the late 90's-early 2000's.

I'm sure they have been in touch throughout his career.
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Re: How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP

Postby Trimss » Sep 7th, '13, 21:51

Revolutionary wrote:
Trimss wrote:Rubin tries to be objective. If he doesn't like your shit he will tell you. If he thinks something is overproduced he's gonna tell you. If you're making a shitty song he's gonna tell you.

Yeezus :unsure:

But yeah, Rubin is a great influence. His naked feet are the secret.


http://noisey.vice.com/fr/blog/everythi ... rom-yeezus

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Re: How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP

Postby SG. » Sep 7th, '13, 21:56

Trimss wrote:
Revolutionary wrote:
Trimss wrote:Rubin tries to be objective. If he doesn't like your shit he will tell you. If he thinks something is overproduced he's gonna tell you. If you're making a shitty song he's gonna tell you.

Yeezus :unsure:

But yeah, Rubin is a great influence. His naked feet are the secret.


http://noisey.vice.com/fr/blog/everythi ... rom-yeezus

Yeezus was wack even before he laid his hands on it.

Looks at the tags, silly.
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Re: How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP

Postby Trimss » Sep 7th, '13, 21:58

Well I feel dumb now lmao. I never look at the tags. :'(
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Re: How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP

Postby Evil Twin » Sep 7th, '13, 22:28

Revolutionary wrote:So yeah...my question still stands.
We all know Rubin is a straightforward kinda dude and gives his true opinion, if Rubin was like that with Ye then how the fuck did Yeezus happen?


Different circumstances tbh man. Yeezus was already like 95% complete when Rubin heard it. Rubin had nothing to do with the album and just listened to it when he had a chance.

But with MMLP2, he is co-executive producer so he will have a pretty big influence on how this album sounds.
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Re: How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP

Postby Never_Enough » Sep 7th, '13, 23:06

Oh, and I want to add: Yeezus was dope.
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Re: How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP

Postby Jimmy Conway » Sep 7th, '13, 23:13

Shady's Apocalypse wrote:So who's idea do you think it was and why do you think that person chose Rubin for this job?


Em's idea.


Because he didn't want the album to sound like it was recorded using a bunch of trash cans as drums like Recovery.
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Re: How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP

Postby Kill You » Sep 7th, '13, 23:25

What Trimss said. I'm really really happy that he's involved. I know there won't be a bad moment on the album with him involved...

Of course, he did get involved with Yeezus...he maybe didn't wanna take too much from that project.
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Re: How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP

Postby xNero » Sep 7th, '13, 23:57

Trimss wrote:Rubin tries to be objective. If he doesn't like your shit he will tell you. If he thinks something is overproduced he's gonna tell you. If you're making a shitty song he's gonna tell you.

Eminem probably wanted an album influenced by old school rap, and Rubin produced some License to Ill which is one of Em's favorite album. That + needing someone who isn't a yes man in his entourage and here you go.

Exactly. Dre likes Rubin, too.

Also... Didn't Rubin only work on Yeezus for like fifteen days?
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Re: How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP

Postby M15HKA » Sep 8th, '13, 12:11

Revolutionary wrote:
Horsebot3K wrote:Holy shit, people hate Yeezus? Granted, it's not MBDTF, but I still think it's pretty great even if it was mostly a lyrical afterthought for Kanye.

LOL

Kanye would puke and you all would go lick that shit up. Yeezus was shit.

x2 it was horrific and i gave it a full listen about 5 times over two weeks :facepalm
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Re: How and why do you think Rick Rubin got involved in MMLP

Postby momentsgolden » Sep 8th, '13, 12:20

To answer Revolutionary.... Yeezus happened for two reasons

1. Rick Rubin does not write. So, it doesn't matter how long they would have worked on Yeezus, the lyrics were always going to be rudimentary. Being the person that he is, he pushes you to the limit of your ability and in this case its probably the best writing current Kanye can muster.

2. The artist would create the direction they want to go and he makes it the best in that direction. So, "minimal, hard and edgy" was Kany's idea and it was Rubin who tried to make the best of that. What that means is what appeals to him might not appeal to you.

With that said, while i am VERY happy he is involved, it gets me worried about what Eminem thinks the essence of MMLP is. Does he take it as provocative music? Throwback music? Effortless reactions? Teen angst? Slim shady? Humour? Social commentary?

He's brain is washed out and he probably no longer has a clear idea of how his thought process was during the creation of that masterpiece. Lets hope the pieces he picks up on make for a good direction
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