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How did Beautiful Pain and Groundhog not make the album??

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How did Beautiful Pain and Groundhog not make the album??

Postby Slim Stanley » Nov 1st, '13, 03:09

Dam :o those are both quality tracks. I think he could have thrown out Berzerk for Groundhog (I know some will disagree, but Berzerk feels weirdly out of place to me, and it's just not a great song imo; plus the 3-way combo of Brainless, Groundhog, and Rap God would work well together) -- and Monster for Beautiful Pain (maybe transfer some of the ideas/lyrics of monster into Beautiful Pain so nothing is missing).


edit: whoops, I meant Beautiful Pain, not Desperation. :b:
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Re: How did Desperation and Groundhog not make the album??

Postby bcooper21 » Nov 1st, '13, 03:11

Because they choose singles over better songs.
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Re: How did Desperation and Groundhog not make the album?

Postby Slim Stanley » Nov 1st, '13, 03:12

RiseFromTheAshez wrote:What if he made it a double album?


Shit, even better. I bet he had enough songs to fill up multiple albums.

It just feels like a missed opportunity to me. Groundhog and Beautiful pain sound too dam good to be left out.
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Re: How did Desperation and Groundhog not make the album??

Postby Slim Stanley » Nov 1st, '13, 03:12

bcooper21 wrote:Because they choose singles over better songs.


Beautiful pain would make a fantastic single.
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Re: How did Beautiful Pain and Groundhog not make the album?

Postby Atone » Nov 1st, '13, 03:29

Lol why do ppl act like bonus tracks are seperate? they are on the album, they are apart of it, no difference if they are bonus or not
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Re: How did Beautiful Pain and Groundhog not make the album?

Postby Slim Stanley » Nov 1st, '13, 03:37

Atone wrote:Lol why do ppl act like bonus tracks are seperate? they are on the album, they are apart of it, no difference if they are bonus or not


Well that kinda makes me feel better :happy:
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Re: How did Beautiful Pain and Groundhog not make the album?

Postby unbound88 » Nov 1st, '13, 03:51

I just care that we got the tracks, I'm grateful for that.

Groundhog day doe, there are some crazy lines I'm still trying to catch on there, and that outro from 4:16 to the end is (Rap) Godly!

U didn't mention Baby tho and it's def. one of the standout bonus cuts.
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Re: How did Beautiful Pain and Groundhog not make the album?

Postby yoda you can call me » Nov 1st, '13, 04:06

cohesion is why they didn't make the standard album
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Re: How did Beautiful Pain and Groundhog not make the album?

Postby speckzo » Nov 1st, '13, 04:08

All the songs are still considered on the album, they just made it Deluxe to make you feel like you're getting something special. Not that it's not special, but it's just a marketing ploy. They're all still ON the album, nahimsayin?
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Re: How did Beautiful Pain and Groundhog not make the album?

Postby Mr Change » Nov 1st, '13, 04:09

yoda you can call me wrote:cohesion is why they didn't make the standard album


You know, that thing that we whined about for three years after Recovery dropped and we feared this album would lack as well.

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Re: How did Beautiful Pain and Groundhog not make the album?

Postby yoda you can call me » Nov 1st, '13, 04:37

Mr Change wrote:
yoda you can call me wrote:cohesion is why they didn't make the standard album


You know, that thing that we whined about for three years after Recovery dropped and we feared this album would lack as well.

:worship:

thank rubin and dre for that :worship:
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Re: How did Beautiful Pain and Groundhog not make the album?

Postby TRickster » Nov 1st, '13, 04:38

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Re: How did Beautiful Pain and Groundhog not make the album?

Postby Slim Stanley » Nov 1st, '13, 04:41

yoda you can call me wrote:cohesion is why they didn't make the standard album


You think Bezerk is cohesive with the album? Honestly I don't think MMLP2 is anymore cohesive then Recovery, although I think it's better.
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Re: How did Beautiful Pain and Groundhog not make the album?

Postby yoda you can call me » Nov 1st, '13, 04:46

Slim Stanley wrote:
yoda you can call me wrote:cohesion is why they didn't make the standard album


You think Bezerk is cohesive with the album? Honestly I don't think MMLP2 is anymore cohesive then Recovery, although I think it's better.

you may personally not like the track, but loads of other people do, even em :D .. it fits and flows into rap god perfectly
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Re: How did Beautiful Pain and Groundhog not make the album?

Postby cityfan31 » Nov 1st, '13, 09:43

I'm viewing the whole deluxe package as the MMLP 2 era.

Songs are often left off for ideas about cohesion / commercial singles and if the Rap God was OK with it then I am too. That's music.

It's not like we heard these songs months down the line, if you buy the deluxe you get them. He wanted them out there now.

Also just noticed, Legacy has the same rhyme scheme through all 3 verses. :worship: :worship:

I think this album is monumental.
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