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Question about STIW

Postby speckzo » Nov 1st, '13, 01:26

Why does Rap Genius as well as other people think that Stronger Than I was is supposed to be told in the perspective of Kim? That doesn't make any sense, there's a bunch of lines that say it's from a mans perspective to a girl. Where did this theory come from am I missing something, also this is my favorite song of the album probably.
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Re: Two Questions

Postby Raul » Nov 1st, '13, 01:29

speckzo wrote:1. Why does Rap Genius as well as other people think that Stronger Than I was is supposed to be told in the perspective of Kim? That doesn't make any sense, there's a bunch of lines that say it's from a mans perspective to a girl. Where did this theory come from am I missing something, also this is my favorite song of the album probably.

2. Did a dirty version of Wicked Ways leak yet? It doesn't make sense, how could someone get a fully dirty album but one song is censored, the fuck?


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Re: Two Questions

Postby yezz1r » Nov 1st, '13, 01:31

Question #1: The whole "up and leave" thing could be when Em was flown to LA by Dre and took off from there. Also "Left me with nothing."

Sounds like it could be from Kim's perspective.
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Re: Two Questions

Postby speckzo » Nov 1st, '13, 01:36

raul-valente wrote:
speckzo wrote:1. Why does Rap Genius as well as other people think that Stronger Than I was is supposed to be told in the perspective of Kim? That doesn't make any sense, there's a bunch of lines that say it's from a mans perspective to a girl. Where did this theory come from am I missing something, also this is my favorite song of the album probably.

2. Did a dirty version of Wicked Ways leak yet? It doesn't make sense, how could someone get a fully dirty album but one song is censored, the fuck?


2 - viewtopic.php?f=3&t=165802



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Re: Question about STIW

Postby ShaggyKid » Nov 1st, '13, 04:22

It sounds like it's from Kim's perspective yo me
I murder a troll with the pistol on my side. You never heard of a soul as demented as mine. You better get rid of that link, cuz it ain't gonna load, who the fuck you think you trickin as you continue to goad!
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Re: Question about STIW

Postby Snakebeast » Nov 1st, '13, 04:24

Me too. It could be argued as ugly and mad, but it sounds like he said ugly man.
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Re: Question about STIW

Postby speckzo » Nov 1st, '13, 04:29

There's no way it's from Kim's perspective, beautiful face? Wtf, and it's ugly and mad and even if it was ugly man, people can call girl 'man' like what's up man? Plus Kim doesn't rap "This verse I lay." It's not from Kim I don't know who came up with that. If anything I think it's the same fictional girl from Space Bound because of the date not existing and it would've been two years but she left May 1st, year and six months from spacebound.
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Re: Question about STIW

Postby Squiggles123 » Nov 1st, '13, 04:37

Yeah I think It's from Kim's perspective. Also apparently Kim said that after they got married for the second time they broke up because Em just one day left and didn't come back, he'd had enough.
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Re: Question about STIW

Postby MikeBett » Nov 1st, '13, 04:40

Snake897 wrote:Me too. It could be argued as ugly and mad, but it sounds like he said ugly man.

I hear ugliness.
And yeh I don't understand that either. I want it to be, cuz it's a dope concept but I just don't see/hear it.
I think he's pretty far detached from making entire love/hate songs inspired by kim. Different women became influences starting at Encore, which also presumably had the last one on it(puke, Love you more)
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Re: Question about STIW

Postby MikeBett » Nov 1st, '13, 04:42

Geno wrote:The singing portions are from Kim's perspective.

The rap portion is from Em's.

The singing part says

"Why do you date me if you say I make you sick?"

People think it references Puke.

Makes sense to me.

This album has a lot of closure, such as Headlights. A 180 from the stuff he said about his mom on MMLP.

This could be the 180 for the song Kim

Just saw this, that's a good point against my detached from Kim song comment. I gotta listen again, does the rapping sound like he's answering to the singing?
Love the song btw
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Re: Question about STIW

Postby MikeBett » Nov 1st, '13, 06:19

Just listened again really close, I respect that it might be a lot more now. That's awesome.
And yeah definitely not ugliness.... it's ugly maaaaaaa - - something lol
It reminds me of an early 2000's blink 182 type of punk song. It's amazing. My friend was saying oh he's done shit like this before on the Eminem show one....but it's definitely nothing like Hallies song, only similarity is he's singing
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Re: Question about STIW

Postby ShaggyKid » Nov 1st, '13, 06:23

It almost seems like he wrote these lyrics a long time ago and has been sitting on them.. maybe about 2 years after they split
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Re: Question about STIW

Postby ShaggyKid » Nov 1st, '13, 06:23

It almost seems like he wrote these lyrics a long time ago and has been sitting on them.. maybe about 2 years after they split
I murder a troll with the pistol on my side. You never heard of a soul as demented as mine. You better get rid of that link, cuz it ain't gonna load, who the fuck you think you trickin as you continue to goad!
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Re: Question about STIW

Postby emusic » Nov 1st, '13, 06:33

MikeBett wrote:Just listened again really close, I respect that it might be a lot more now. That's awesome.
And yeah definitely not ugliness.... it's ugly maaaaaaa - - something lol
It reminds me of an early 2000's blink 182 type of punk song. It's amazing. My friend was saying oh he's done shit like this before on the Eminem show one....but it's definitely nothing like Hallies song, only similarity is he's singing

Yes, it reminded of punk rock songs, I wonder what music other than hip hop he listens too. this album so... interesting musically.
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Re: Question about STIW

Postby MikeBett » Nov 1st, '13, 06:38

emusic wrote:
MikeBett wrote:Just listened again really close, I respect that it might be a lot more now. That's awesome.
And yeah definitely not ugliness.... it's ugly maaaaaaa - - something lol
It reminds me of an early 2000's blink 182 type of punk song. It's amazing. My friend was saying oh he's done shit like this before on the Eminem show one....but it's definitely nothing like Hallies song, only similarity is he's singing

Yes, it reminded of punk rock songs, I wonder what music other than hip hop he listens too. this album so... interesting musically.

Yeh you can tell he's really branching out with his musical interests, with all the styles and features.. which is nice. I used to be rap rap rap rap only as well years ago....its not good ...gotta broaden what you take in, when it comes to everything...news, art, entertainment, opinions.. whatever
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