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Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby Steelez » Nov 4th, '13, 02:38

I love mmlp2 BUT..

gkmc is better.
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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby 1LynguisticMind » Nov 4th, '13, 02:39

no it's not

mbdtf, gkmc, rap music and undun are all better than mmlp 2
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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby therapist » Nov 4th, '13, 02:40

MMLP2> GKMC. give it time

GKMC still > MCHG + MBTDF combined
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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby fifflaren » Nov 4th, '13, 02:42

NO :laughing:


MMLP 1 is better, but mmlp 2 is nowhere near gkmc, mmlp 2 isn't even raoty 2013.
Sing about me, maad city, money trees are better than everything on mmlp 2 imo
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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby 4Corners » Nov 4th, '13, 02:43

1LynguisticMind wrote:no it's not

mbdtf, gkmc, rap music and undun are all better than mmlp 2


Agree about GKMC but disagree about the rest. Of course, I'm not Kanye's biggest fan. Lyrically he was the same on the album, average and sub par as fuck. He hides behind his production every album. I don't care how dope his beats sound, if he sounds like ass when he's rapping.

RAP Music is dope, but better than MMLP2??? Idk. Killer Mike is dope, but he's not remotely on the same level lyrically.

Undun is dope, another strong album from Roots. I feel the same with MMLP2 for Em.
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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby Kill You » Nov 4th, '13, 02:44

fifflaren wrote:NO :laughing:


MMLP 1 is better, but mmlp 2 is nowhere near gkmc, mmlp 2 isn't even raoty 2013


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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby Steelez » Nov 4th, '13, 02:44

I really don't know which one I'll enjoy more in a few years but I already know that gkmc is better.
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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby shreyshady » Nov 4th, '13, 03:03

I honestly never got the hype about MBDTF, I would really love to understand why people think it's such a phenomenal album.

Two out of the thirteen songs were group cuts, where he didn't have the best verse on EITHER of them, and essentially had ZERO cohesive subject matter on those two songs.

Five out of the thirteen songs were featuring other rappers besides Kanye.

The only thing impressive about the album imo, is the production, where Kanye is phenomenal as usual. The songs all sound great, but it fails as a rap album to me because he fails to deliver anything impressive lyrically which should be the staple of a rap album. He's NOT a technically great rapper imo, I don't think him as a rapper judging of skill should be in the same conversation as Em and Kendrick. He does make great music which I thoroughly appreciate, I have over 100 Kanye songs and listen to him all the time, I just don't get when people act like he has one of the most perfect discographies of all time. I just don't feel like he brings it as a RAPPER, he may bring it as a musician but then he belongs in a different conversation because Em and Kendrick are pure rappers.

MMLP2 and GKMC are too hard to compare in my opinion, and I think it's too early. I prefer MMLP2 as of now, but that's only because I like Em's sound way too much to pick GKMC over it.

Oh and GKMC is NOT better than SSLP. Not even close Kendrick can make a better album than one of Em's top three, I just don't think it's GKMC.
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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby ganjakush56 » Nov 4th, '13, 03:09

shreyshady wrote:I honestly never got the hype about MBDTF, I would really love to understand why people think it's such a phenomenal album.

Two out of the thirteen songs were group cuts, where he didn't have the best verse on EITHER of them, and essentially had ZERO cohesive subject matter on those two songs.

Five out of the thirteen songs were featuring other rappers besides Kanye.

The only thing impressive about the album imo, is the production, where Kanye is phenomenal as usual. The songs all sound great, but it fails as a rap album to me because he fails to deliver anything impressive lyrically which should be the staple of a rap album. He's NOT a technically great rapper imo, I don't think him as a rapper judging of skill should be in the same conversation as Em and Kendrick. He does make great music which I thoroughly appreciate, I have over 100 Kanye songs and listen to him all the time, I just don't get when people act like he has one of the most perfect discographies of all time. I just don't feel like he brings it as a RAPPER, he may bring it as a musician but then he belongs in a different conversation because Em and Kendrick are pure rappers.

MMLP2 and GKMC are too hard to compare in my opinion, and I think it's too early. I prefer MMLP2 as of now, but that's only because I like Em's sound way too much to pick GKMC over it.

Oh and GKMC is NOT better than SSLP. Not even close Kendrick can make a better album than one of Em's top three, I just don't think it's GKMC.


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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby Rattle1 » Nov 4th, '13, 03:11

I don't think so.

It's better than s80 but gkmc >
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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby kpprasa » Nov 4th, '13, 03:26

Yes MMLP2>GKMC for the simple reason that the quality of the best tracks on the MMLP2 is far superior to that of GKMC. Also while GKMC is more cohesive, it doesn't have the meticulous consideration that went into each one of the songs on the MMLP2. In other words, the MMLP2 has better lyricism, same flow, and better concepts. The only thing that GKMC has going for it is consistency. I avoided personal and introspective, because I feel that both albums do that in their own right.
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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby 1LynguisticMind » Nov 4th, '13, 03:31

gkmc is superior in almost every way tbh.

The only thing mmlp has going for it is its production

Trilla wrote:I think you're way ahead of yourself, buddy. There is nothing monumental about The Marshall Mathers LP 2, besides the fact that it is the sequel to The Marshall Mathers LP.

There is nothing monumental about Eminem touching topics he has been his entire career. "Legacy", "Rhyme or Reason", "So Far", "Survival", "So Much Better", "Brainless", "Asshole"...all rehashed topics he has been using only from different perspectives and a lot more bar splitting that fucks up the flow.

A monumental album would be filled with songs that Eminem has not done before. Topics that he has not yet explored.

GKMC is a monumental album because...well, this is the only time we'll be hearing an album like this from Kendrick. He wanted to share his life story and give us an idea of who he is, by creating this cinematic album.

You are all experiencing the hype of MMLP 2 now, but just give it a few months and you will all be back to your normal selves.

If you have not listened to GKMC thoroughly, then why even bother posting in this thread?


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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby 4Corners » Nov 4th, '13, 03:35

1LynguisticMind wrote:gkmc is superior in almost every way tbh.

The only thing mmlp has going for it is its production


I think Em is 90% of the time lyrically superior to Kendrick, but GKMC every song is dope. Not one song is weak like Survival or The Monster.

Em should have taken those off, and thrown Baby and Groundhog Day on.

But GKMC is better than MMLP2. GKMC is a 9.5 possibly a 10 album. MMLP2 is an 8 album. Maybe an 8.5 down the line. A very good album. Not a classic like GKMC. I actually think GKMC is slightly better than SSLP, but he ain't touching MMLP or TES.
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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby MackBook » Nov 4th, '13, 03:36

Trilla wrote:I think you're way ahead of yourself, buddy. There is nothing monumental about The Marshall Mathers LP 2, besides the fact that it is the sequel to The Marshall Mathers LP.

There is nothing monumental about Eminem touching topics he has been his entire career. "Legacy", "Rhyme or Reason", "So Far", "Survival", "So Much Better", "Brainless", "Asshole"...all rehashed topics he has been using only from different perspectives and a lot more bar splitting that fucks up the flow.

A monumental album would be filled with songs that Eminem has not done before. Topics that he has not yet explored.

GKMC is a monumental album because...well, this is the only time we'll be hearing an album like this from Kendrick. He wanted to share his life story and give us an idea of who he is, by creating this cinematic album.

You are all experiencing the hype of MMLP 2 now, but just give it a few months and you will all be back to your normal selves.

If you have not listened to GKMC thoroughly, then why even bother posting in this thread?


You just listed your opinions as to why GKMC is better...

Yet at the same time, GKMC is just a "fresh spin" on a topic thats been beaten to death in hip-hop: Growing up in the ghetto. And Section.80 was similar in a lot of ways content wise to GKMC so dont say GKMC is something way out of left field for him. Kendrick put his good kid twist on it and im not saying he didnt put out a phenomenal album, but i think a lot of the reason GKMC is so "monumental" is because of its competition. Everyone was so happy to "finally have a hip hop record again." It was 2Pacalypse now in 2012. Phenomenal, but if GKMC came out in a time when fans werent so starved for decent music GKMC wouldnt be as hyped as it is.
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Re: Is MMLP2 better than GKMC?

Postby trentimus » Nov 4th, '13, 03:36

Honestly GKMC is far better but that isn't to slight MMLP2 so much as prop up GKMC. The themes and production of GKMC are so cohesive and unique it's literally brilliant how the album is put together.

The high points of MMLP2 are higher than GKMC but as a solid lyrical and musical effort GKMC is a front to back story. He took everything the likes of Nas and Tupac did well and put his own spin on it.. It's really genius how compatible it is to Nas' Illmatic.

MMLP2 is a nostalgic album meant for the fans. It's just different in that regard. I love both but GKMC will be remembered as a pinnacle in the new-school hip-hop. Where MMLP2 will be remember by Stans.

MMLP2 is a 8/10 project..

GKMC is a 10/10

I want to add.. Lyrical Eminem is not scathed by K.Dot.. Were just comparing this body of work and it's overall greatness. I don't feel GKMC is over hyped either.. He did everything, every greatest of all time rapper has done and made it better TBH
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