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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby slimsoxshady » Nov 6th, '13, 21:48

Pitchfork is full of gay bots...it's laughable that they gave Recovery a 2.8, which is proabably worst they've ever given any album

they gave this album a better review than MMLP2 lmao
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/15739-ferrari-boyz/
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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby 4Corners » Nov 6th, '13, 21:48

Nas and Kendrick are the only emcees matching or in the same ballpark as Em right now.

Nas and Em are clearly clearly greater than Jay
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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby Rattle1 » Nov 6th, '13, 21:52

Nas has always been better than jay :coffee:
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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby 4Corners » Nov 6th, '13, 21:53

No...all 3 had high points and low points. Just like the 3s for Jay and Nas

Encore still had Never Enough, YBR, LTS, Mosh, SST, Mockingbird, CIL, LYM, We as americans.

Relapse and Refill had 3am, HBL, My darling, CWYWF, Drop the Bomb on em, music nox, elevator, beautiful, underground, MBTG, etc

Recovery still had CWB, On Fire, GTC, Seduction, No love verse, SB, Ridaz, so bad, almost famous, untitled, session one
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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby Steelez » Nov 6th, '13, 21:53

reasonable doubt > illmatic
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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby Cinderella Stan » Nov 6th, '13, 21:55

slimsoxshady wrote:Pitchfork is full of gay bots...it's laughable that they gave Recovery a 2.8, which is proabably worst they've ever given any album

they gave this album a better review than MMLP2 lmao
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/15739-ferrari-boyz/


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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby Rattle1 » Nov 6th, '13, 21:56

Steelez wrote:reasonable doubt > illmatic


LOL, no one was checkin for Hov and cats thought it was trash until Jay himself started sayin that it was classic later on

There were MANY albums that cats were checking for over or in addition to RD.

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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby 4Corners » Nov 6th, '13, 22:08

Dj booth - 4/5

http://www.djbooth.net/index/mobile/alb ... p-2#review

Metacritic up to 73. They havent added allmusic's 4/5 yet or NY Times positive yet either. Those would make 23 reviews, with 17 positive/5 mixed/1 negative. Only about 26-30 reviews are usually counted, so only a few left
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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby NextEpisode » Nov 6th, '13, 22:43

Entertainment Weekly: C+ (=?/100)
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20752992,00.html

Eminem wouldn't be Eminem — or Slim Shady, or Marshall Mathers — if he didn't allot some of his whizbang rhymes to homophobic slurs and misogynistic fantasies. ''Rap God,'' an early release from his eighth album on which he belittles unnamed rivals as ''fags'' and ''gay,'' kicked up the latest in a long line of debates about his compulsion to attack women and gay men. But on The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (out this week, and already on track to be one of the year's biggest sellers), the Detroit stalwart works his is-it-me-or-my-demons shell game more furiously than ever. On the seven-minute-plus opener ''Bad Guy,'' he imagines his own comeuppance, as the brother of his old stalker character, Stan, kidnaps Em to avenge his late sibling. Facing death, Marshall imagines his ''lack of a conscience'': ''I'm the bullies you hate, that you became/With every faggot you slaughtered/Coming back on ya, every woman you insult/That, with the double standard you had when it comes to your daughters.''

So many layers! But while ''Bad Guy'' — which recognizes that he's no better than the bullies who damaged him — might be the closest Em's come to a mea culpa, it still fails to justify his cranking the cycle back up again. He uses antigay epithets on two more songs, and fully devotes three others to deriding exes, including ''Love Game,'' featuring a truly stoopid Kendrick Lamar verse. Nor does any of it put Em within shouting distance of the year 2013. Today's leading rappers cultivate sensitivity (Drake) or channel anger sparked by racism and complacency (Kanye). And virtually all of current hip-hop is hot and heavy with the fashion world, where females and gay guys obviously pull many of the levers. Meanwhile, ''Berzerk,'' LP 2's most exhilarating track, features Em boasting about his ''pressed khakis'' over a track built on vintage Billy Squier and Beastie Boys bits. Credit that throwback sound to Rick Rubin, who executive-produced the album with Dr. Dre, another rap fogey still going strong. Rubin, the guitar-sampling god who helped Kanye pare down the bludgeoning Yeezus, here sends Eminem back to the future for the album's most endearingly bonkers tracks. ''Rhyme or Reason'' rearranges ''Time of the Season'' by the Zombies so Em can answer the circa-1968 vocals asking ''What's your name?'' and ''Who's your daddy?'' with ''Marshall'' and ''I don't have one.'' ''So Far...'' similarly flips ''Life's Been Good'' by Joe Walsh. (Joe Walsh!) All this meta-production underlines a more banal truth about Em's durable appeal: He likes guitars (and on slower tracks, piano). With rock these days as lethargic as hip-hop is inventive, Eminem's the patron saint of those who yearn for big riffs and unapologetic gangstas.

He's also rightly considered a rap great for his technical prowess, wicked humor, and tenacity. (Listen to him, say, inhabit Yoda on ''Rhyme or Reason.'') As a rapper, he's virtually untouchable. As a rager, he's right on many fans' levels. Which makes his flashes of hatred for women and gay men all the more alarming. At this point, though, his ultimate obsessions are with his disappointing mother and absent father — and those, he uses to abuse himself. C+

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They gave Recovery 83/100...
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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby Crazee » Nov 6th, '13, 22:45

We all have different opinions. I mean, to some extent albums are generally well regarded or poorly regarded by a majority of fans or influential critics. Still, you should be able to like what you like. If you hate MMLP2, that's fine. I love that shit, but sometimes certain music just appeals to you or doesn't appeal to you and it isn't always driven by any logical/rational evaluation. Like, I never thought either Blueprint or Stillmatic were as good as everyone else thought when they came out. I wasn't going to yell at people that loved them, but they're both just above average albums to me. I actually prefer BP2 and God's Son lol. Taste is what it is.

But still, music reviewers are paid to analyze albums and should be able to evaluate music on more than a surface level. You can not personally think something appeals to YOUR sensibilities and still be able to understand it's quality. If something is technically solid but the content isn't your cup of tea, you should still review it as technically good at what it intends to do instead of ripping it for not being what you want it to be. That's what being unbiased is about as a reviewer. Judging art on it's merits, not just your desires and expectations.

LOL@ that review above me. Yes, it's absolutely cool for Kanye to just randomly call everybody racist. It's not like comparing the pressures he has to slavery is demeaning and pathetic. No, it's empowering! lol These people don't even understand that rap isn't autobiographical. And LOL @ "stoopid Kendrick Lamar" verse". Maaaaan...
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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby Mr.DGAF » Nov 6th, '13, 22:48

^ I think that puts it somewhere between 76-79. Which is lower than Recovery hue. Funny how so many people take offense to his "homophobic slurs". Gotta love the sensitivity of 'Merica.
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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby 4Corners » Nov 6th, '13, 23:35

So basically.....if em never said faggot or bashed women, he'd get an 80+.

A 58/C+ is harsh for this album
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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby yoda you can call me » Nov 6th, '13, 23:38

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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby yoda you can call me » Nov 6th, '13, 23:43

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Re: MMLP2 REVIEWS

Postby yezz1r » Nov 6th, '13, 23:43

yoda you can call me wrote:http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/music/reviews/album/eminem-the-marshall-mathers-lp-2-album-review-367319.html
4.5/5


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