Bad Guy

[kkaniff]

Bad Guy has been getting a fair bit of praise but fuck it doesn't get as much as it deserves.
As a sequel to Stan, which is probably the greatest storytelling or just plain greatest hip-hop song of all time, it says quite a bit about its brilliance that people haven't said anything negative about its worthiness as a sequel. But in spite of this, it isn't really thought of as being equal to, or Moretz forbid, greater than Stan or even as a top 10 greatest Em song.
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Guys, I think Bad Guy might be better.
Stan's brilliance comes mostly from its eeriely accurate potrayal of the gradual descent into psychosis of a crazed, obsessed fan. It's like audio Stephen King.
Bad Guy is an even MORE accurate potrayal of the psychotic break of Matthew
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Psychosis.
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"Many things can cause temporary
psychosis. Environmental triggers,
such as losing a loved one, are known
to contribute, as may excessive stress,
[3] or the interaction of strong social
demands with a pre-existing
vulnerability of self. "
Stan Mitchell's death, Em's apparent homopobia = likely causes.
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In Bad Guy, Marshall, Matthew and Stan have not only clearly different voices but also different patterns/rap styles, Matthew seems to favour (slightly bad) puns while Stan is more into dizzying displays of verbal acrobatics ( hope foxtrot gets an aerial shot of your burial spot at least) and the way Matthew assumes Stan's persona as his psychosis progresses is sheer genius as...
"Psychosis is a symptom or feature of
mental illness typically characterized
by radical changes in personality,
impaired functioning, and a distorted
or nonexistent sense of objective
reality."
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As a potrayal of psychosis, Bad Guy has the edge on account of the sheer amount of fuckin' detail and accuracy this motherfuckin' 9th grade drop-out managed to somehow intuit and include so subtly in a 7 minute song, that you would hardly notice if you're not looking for it.
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I'm going to stop here 'cos this shit is getting waaay too long but basically
Bad Guy has a genius showing of a psychotic break, detailed and vivid storytelling "its now arrived and my mouth is full of saliva", the powerful last verse which is probably the most introspective and honest looks we've had at Marshall's life/fears/insecurities, classic Shady hand-on-the-pulse-of-society moments like "here's the sequel to my Mathers LP just to get people to buy", and beautiful, incredibly deep, poetic moments like "potrait of an artist tortured, trapped in his own drawings.."
Give this shit the credit it deserves.
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Forgive my rant.
Inbeforepovertythread.

[Raul]

I think putting Bad Guy on the level of Stan is reasonable. Good job, OP.

[Mr Change]

Amazing song. Will be talked about years from now, mark it down.

[Kaliya]

For me it's as good as Stan, really, this song should be a classic.

[B.A.D.]

GOAT thread

Bad Guy is too good

MMLP2 is a masterpiece

[Kill You]

For me it's as good as Stan, really, this song should be a classic.

Me too but that's because I find Stan kind of boring...I like Bad Guy better, actually...

[biscuitsbrah]

Am I retarded for not knowing bad guy was a sequel to stan?

[Raul]

Am I retarded for not knowing bad guy was a sequel to stan?

Kind of.

[RSoares]

Am I retarded for not knowing bad guy was a sequel to stan?

yeah, kind of. Everyone (literally everyone) knew it.

[Kill You]

Am I retarded for not knowing bad guy was a sequel to stan?

Not if you didn't know who Matthew was. But anyone who has listened to Stan should know that Matthew is Stan's little brother...

I think it's funny how most of us actually predicted that there would be a "Matthew" track.

[Notalius]

Am I retarded for not knowing bad guy was a sequel to stan?

yeah, kind of. Everyone (literally everyone) knew it.

I didn't after the first listen tbh. I think for people that don't have English as their native language, like myself, it was kinda confusing after the first listen or second, but I realised it soon enough.

[Raul]

Am I retarded for not knowing bad guy was a sequel to stan?

Not if you didn't know who Matthew was. But anyone who has listened to Stan should know that Matthew is Stan's little brother...

I think it's funny how most of us actually predicted that there would be a "Matthew" track.

http://forum.trshady.com/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=161094

This is interesting aswell.

[Mathers]

Agreed but it's not better than ''Stan''.

[kkaniff]

But WHY is Stan a better song than Bad Guy? Anybody?

[Mr.DGAF]

But WHY is Stan a better song than Bad Guy? Anybody?

Better writing is immediately an advantage Stan has. I love Bad Guy, concept is fucking dope as hell. But the writing isn't close IMO. I'd also chose Stan's beat; set the tone and atmosphere of the song perfectly.