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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby Mathers » Nov 9th, '13, 11:39

cityfan31 wrote:There's a lot of songs which I automatically skip which has never happened with any previous release.

I love some of the album.

So you like Encore and Recovery more?
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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby nxt-semster-illB35 » Nov 9th, '13, 13:15

cityfan31 wrote:There's a lot of songs which I automatically skip which has never happened with any previous release.

I love some of the album.


Same. and even beyond that, this is the least engrossed i've been when he's dropped an album. Even recovery, which to me was horrible the first few listens, was on constant repeat for me because fuck it, IT WAS A NEW EM ALBUM!! :D

This one feels like he dropped a guest verse, and I'm not too bothered. I've never felt this apathetic to an album release, let alone the MMLP2! I dunno, I haven't been playing it non-stop and I think I've been playing role model more times recently than anything on the album (except Rap God, berzerk, baby and groundhogday ). Its good (for about 50- 70% of it), but I feel its not engaging me like a new em album should. Lack of wow?
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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby Trimss » Nov 9th, '13, 13:24

Nah, I absolutely love it and can't decide which song is my favorite.
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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby Kill You » Nov 9th, '13, 13:50

Hopsinshadie wrote:
Kill You wrote:I love it too and I sort of agree to an extent. I can't listen to his old shit right now.



In complete denial


YOU are, fucktard. You can't accept good music. I genuinely enjoy this shit.
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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby cityfan31 » Nov 9th, '13, 13:58

Mathers wrote:
cityfan31 wrote:There's a lot of songs which I automatically skip which has never happened with any previous release.

I love some of the album.

So you like Encore and Recovery more?


All I remember is that when Recovery dropped I literally had the whole album on repeat for a month or two. It was all I listened to until I knew every word. The only songs I started to skip were On Fire (I know, everyone loves it) and WBD.

And Relapse/Refill was another matter all together, I couldn't even get through songs without rewinding sections over and over again.

Legacy, Brainless, Rap God and So Much Better are instant classics, but I go through phases with the others where I just wanna skip them.

I feel like there's less memorable moments where you just go 'oh shit' this is dope.
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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby Kill You » Nov 9th, '13, 14:01

I was much more satisfied with MMLP2 on first listen than I was with Relapse or Recovery. Especially Recovery since I felt a little disappointed. I am not disappointed by a single thing with MMLP2 though...except maybe Asshole which still hasn't grown on me. But I see why he put it on the album and it sounds like it fits.

When you first throw on Bad Guy...:flutter: that new Eminem feel you get.
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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby Mr Change » Nov 9th, '13, 14:11

Kill You wrote:When you first throw on Bad Guy...:flutter: that new Eminem feel you get.


This. Does anyone get the freshest feeling in the world when Bad Guy comes on? :flutter:
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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby 4Corners » Nov 9th, '13, 15:17

Honestly I can't see how people don't see this album is completely better than his last three, and it's not really close tbh.

Encore's issue was he had some great tracks on there, but he also had some of the absolute worst shit he's ever released on there.

Relapse's issue was him running the accents into the ground, and that it was basically Em trying to stir up controversy again by saying weird strange shit for a whole album.....and needless to say it failed, and wasn't well received for a reason.

Recovery's issue, and Rubin his the nail on the head.......a lot of stuff on Recovery didn't sound unique to Eminem like a lot of his previous albums. It sounded like others could go right on those beats, there wasn't a uniqueness to the album like his other ones. And the production is mostly to blame for that, though I still maintain Recovery is better than Relapse.

With MMLP2, he has ALL sorts of different stuff, but keeps that Eminem sound to me, but in a fresh way.

He's got the raw records: Brainless, Groundhog Day
He's got the classic shady shit: So Much Better, Evil Twin, Baby
He's got concepts and emotional cuts: Bad Guy, Legacy, Stronger Than I Was, Headlights, Beautiful Pain
He's got songs where he's just going off lyrically talking shit: Asshole, Rap God, Wicked Ways
He's got songs where he's experimenting with new sounds and/or being funny as shady: Rhyme or Reason, Love Game, So Far, or even Desperation

Like I hear the complaints about the choppy flow here and there, it does get a little much at times, but most of the flows are undeniable on the album, and the few weak lines or choppy flow here and there don't take anything away from the album. If the Eminem we hear on Bad Guy for 90% of the song, Rhye or Reason, So Much Better, Groundhog Day, Legacy, Baby, Rap God, Brainless, Headlights, Evil Twin, or even So Far and Love Game isn't the Eminem you want in 2013......then what the fuck do you want???

Like CTown said on DEHH, it's become fashionable to hate on Eminem or Jay Z now, because they aren't EXACTLY how they were in their primes. I hear it a little more with Jay, he's gotten incredibly lazy with his flow, and sounds like he phoned in about 2/3 of MCHG, but Ems still spittin' with passion, and you can feel what he's saying even if it isn't a personal track. He's spittin with a fire that's real and burns with purpose on MMLP2 to take what one review said. I can hear his fire more so on this album than any other release of his since Eminem Show, and Em sounds like he's having fun rapping again. And those couple reasons are why I think the critics are giving album as good of reviews as Eminem Show or Slim Shady LP, even though I still maintain this album doesn't touch those first three.

Eminem showcases all his talents on this album, and shows he's still lyric for lyric and bar for bar the best rapper alive. Only Nas or Kendrick can relate on that level right now, and Kendrick is pretty much in his peak, while Nas and Em aren't quite peak anymore. Ems flows are so diverse on this album ,it'll be hard to keep up for some, which is why some won't like it.

But that's something I've ALWAYS loved about Em as opposed to Jay or Nas, who I still LOVE.....is Em can spit over ANY type of beat on any song. You wouldn't hear Nas or Jay even attempt a track like So Far or Love Game, because they couldn't pull that off.
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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby OnurCanRecords » Nov 9th, '13, 15:27

nxt-semster-illB35 wrote:
cityfan31 wrote:There's a lot of songs which I automatically skip which has never happened with any previous release.

I love some of the album.


Same. and even beyond that, this is the least engrossed i've been when he's dropped an album. Even recovery, which to me was horrible the first few listens, was on constant repeat for me because fuck it, IT WAS A NEW EM ALBUM!! :D

This one feels like he dropped a guest verse, and I'm not too bothered. I've never felt this apathetic to an album release, let alone the MMLP2! I dunno, I haven't been playing it non-stop and I think I've been playing role model more times recently than anything on the album (except Rap God, berzerk, baby and groundhogday ). Its good (for about 50- 70% of it), but I feel its not engaging me like a new em album should. Lack of wow?


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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby Ubb » Nov 9th, '13, 15:43

I love MMLP2. It gets better and better for me, i disliked Rhyme or Reason at first but now its my favorite song in album
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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby walend » Nov 9th, '13, 16:40

Ares wrote:
Mathers wrote:People are starting to dislike this album already? that was faster than Recovery.

Seriously wtf... Soon Relapse will become better than SSLP, MMLP and TES combined, Recovery will become classic concept album and MMLP2 will be worse than Encore :facepalm



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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby VINTAGƎ » Nov 9th, '13, 18:53

For me it's better than Relapse and Encore by a significant margin. The only other one I can realistically see it surpassing for me is SSLP.

MMLP and TES will always be untouchable and I prefer Recovery Em to this one, but that's not to say this album is bad by any means. It's just some of his other albums are way too good to ever be topped.

My only issue with the album is some of the subject matter, which has gotten repetitive at this point (mom, women, bullies, etc), and a few songs that sound really out of place (The Monster, Stronger Than I Was, Headlights)

But songs like Legacy, Bad Guy -- these are some of the best songs he's made in years.

I think this album was a step in the right direction and I'd be willing to bet his next one, whenever it is, will be better this one. He said this chapter of his life is over, so hopefully we get an album similar in content to Recovery (no dad, no mom, no kim, no bullies) but similiar in sound/production to Eminem Show. That's my hope at least.
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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby Corpse_Welder » Nov 9th, '13, 22:44

4Corners wrote:Honestly I can't see how people don't see this album is completely better than his last three, and it's not really close tbh.


Do you really have to validate your love of the album by making sure everyone else is on board with you? Some of you still have your new album blinders on, half of the lyrics he isn't saying anything, they're just rhyming words. IE;

"Cause I'm hanging up this phone boo, you make my fucking Bluetooth ache
You feeling blue too late, go smurf yourself
You make me wanna smurfin' puke blue Kool Aid"

That's some Doctor Seuss shit, not Eminem. It's not even like I want him to sound like his old albums, because Infinite-TES were all fairly different from eachother. I just want good lyrics or at least some punchlines with words that make some more sense
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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby RSoares » Nov 10th, '13, 01:29

I love this album. It's different from anything Em has ever done. It has its dark, funny and emotional moments. It's a complete album. There's nothing that I really miss in this album. It's all there.

Em grew, he's not in his 20's anymore, he changed and he wanted to take a different direction that the one he was 13 years ago. What I think is that many fans didn't grew with Em and that's why they don't get what Em wants to them to feel right now.

I can listen to his old and new shit 'cause I get what he was trying to say/show to us fan in the time he wrote his songs.

I'm proud Em hasn't gotten stuck in 2000. He evolved is flow, delivery and the way he bends the words.
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Re: Anyone else not completely in love with MMLP2?

Postby SliK » Nov 10th, '13, 01:33

MMLP2 made me appreciate MMLP even more. He was really on top of the fucking world in 99-2000.
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