Just Silver wrote:So much encore hate damn
Because it fucking sucks.
Just Silver wrote:So much encore hate damn
Shady50 wrote:Even though it's not really considered a solo album, some of his stuff on The Re-Up is overlooked too. There's some really dope shit on there.
Snake897 wrote:Shady50 wrote:Even though it's not really considered a solo album, some of his stuff on The Re-Up is overlooked too. There's some really dope shit on there.
No Apologies>>>>>>
Snake897 wrote:Shady50 wrote:Even though it's not really considered a solo album, some of his stuff on The Re-Up is overlooked too. There's some really dope shit on there.
No Apologies>>>>>>
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Snake897 wrote:jinofthewind wrote:7/16 Encore tracks were amazing
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What?
Name them, and I will tell you why you are wrong.
jinofthewind wrote:1. Never Enough - Honestly I can't really write out why I like this track sorry nothing of substance for an arguement so I guess this is just a personal track for why I like it.
2. Yellow Brick Road - Amazing story telling, Em talks about his past and some good word play is involved
3. Like Toy Soldiers - Amazing song. Lands in my top 10 of all time. Some of Em's best story telling skills. He doesn't have super amazing word play but the song doesn't require it. Hook also isn't bad. Production is really good.
4. Mosh - Political rap, decent wordplay not the best but the song is really good none the less, pretty good and dark production
5. Spend Some Time - As you said Em's verse was amazing, the other verse were meh they didn't really take the track down or up but the song settles out as probably my least favorite on this list because of that, but I consider Em's delivery and over all skills on this really good
6. Mockingbird - Super personal rap from Em, this is one of two of the most emotional responses I've ever had from Em. Wordplay? No not really. But it like "Like Toy Soldiers" never needed it. It has a big impact and I feel Em did a great job on this track possibly top three on this album.
7. Encore - GREAT FINALE! Good production, good lyrics, good features and finishes the album off on a high note. The most cohesive song with features on this album. Good track really like this one.
Snake897 wrote:Also emotion =/= good song. You're Never Over was corny as fuck. What impact
jinofthewind wrote:Snake897 wrote:Also emotion =/= good song. You're Never Over was corny as fuck. What impact
You're Never Over is about as emotional as a burnt piece of toast. I can't take that song seriously ever. I mean it may be personal to him but I mean emotional to the listener.
Btw I do know what wordplay means
Sorry for tossing it around this is me typing half asleep
The whole album I like and always have much more than Relapse and Recovery and it's hard to describe why I like the certain songs I guess I'm scrambling to explain it out in actual words because it's really difficult. But basically the lyrical skill and lyrics are separate to me. Because the skill and rhyming techniques and everything in general can be not super impressive but the over all image and story in the end can make up for it, some songs don't need to be super advance and clever to be good imo
Also that first section of lyrics is unfair to quote because it's the introduction to the song I don't even qualify it as part of the verse
The second part is one of the meh parts in Encore not super bad though
Snake897 wrote:jinofthewind wrote:Snake897 wrote:Also emotion =/= good song. You're Never Over was corny as fuck. What impact
You're Never Over is about as emotional as a burnt piece of toast. I can't take that song seriously ever. I mean it may be personal to him but I mean emotional to the listener.
Btw I do know what wordplay means
Sorry for tossing it around this is me typing half asleep
The whole album I like and always have much more than Relapse and Recovery and it's hard to describe why I like the certain songs I guess I'm scrambling to explain it out in actual words because it's really difficult. But basically the lyrical skill and lyrics are separate to me. Because the skill and rhyming techniques and everything in general can be not super impressive but the over all image and story in the end can make up for it, some songs don't need to be super advance and clever to be good imo
Also that first section of lyrics is unfair to quote because it's the introduction to the song I don't even qualify it as part of the verse
The second part is one of the meh parts in Encore not super bad though
I never said Encore (the song) was "super bad". It's the fact that you called it AMAZING. It's a fucking club track. None of what Em said was good. At ALL.
None of the tracks you mentioned had ANYTHING CLOSE to the storytelling ability Em showed on GTC and Same Song and Dance.
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Snake897 wrote:jinofthewind wrote:Snake897 wrote:Also emotion =/= good song. You're Never Over was corny as fuck. What impact
I never said Encore (the song) was "super bad". It's the fact that you called it AMAZING. It's a fucking club track. None of what Em said was good. At ALL.
None of the tracks you mentioned had ANYTHING CLOSE to the storytelling ability Em showed on GTC and Same Song and Dance.
Disagree
Cause we done swam with the sharks, wrestled with alligators
Spoke to a generation of angry teenagers
Whom if it wasn't for rap to bridge the gap, maybe raised to be racist
Who may have never got to see our faces
Grace the cover of Rolling Stone pages, broke down barriers
Of language and races, just call on the caped crusaders
I think those are great lyrics
As far as story telling, I also don't agree. I personally can't listen to Same Song and Dance anymore and I have no idea why (I listened to this song a fair amount when Relapse was first released), it's okay story telling I guess but I first of all don't think it's as good as YBR or LTS, this isn't a very arguable thing this is a mostly personal point.
Snake897 wrote:jinofthewind wrote:Snake897 wrote:Also emotion =/= good song. You're Never Over was corny as fuck. What impact
I never said Encore (the song) was "super bad". It's the fact that you called it AMAZING. It's a fucking club track. None of what Em said was good. At ALL.
None of the tracks you mentioned had ANYTHING CLOSE to the storytelling ability Em showed on GTC and Same Song and Dance.
Disagree
Cause we done swam with the sharks, wrestled with alligators
Spoke to a generation of angry teenagers
Whom if it wasn't for rap to bridge the gap, maybe raised to be racist
Who may have never got to see our faces
Grace the cover of Rolling Stone pages, broke down barriers
Of language and races, just call on the caped crusaders
I think those are great lyrics
As far as story telling, I also don't agree. I personally can't listen to Same Song and Dance anymore and I have no idea why (I listened to this song a fair amount when Relapse was first released), it's okay story telling I guess but I first of all don't think it's as good as YBR or LTS, this isn't a very arguable thing this is a mostly personal point.
jinofthewind wrote:Snake897 wrote:jinofthewind wrote:You're Never Over is about as emotional as a burnt piece of toast. I can't take that song seriously ever. I mean it may be personal to him but I mean emotional to the listener.
Btw I do know what wordplay means
Sorry for tossing it around this is me typing half asleep
The whole album I like and always have much more than Relapse and Recovery and it's hard to describe why I like the certain songs I guess I'm scrambling to explain it out in actual words because it's really difficult. But basically the lyrical skill and lyrics are separate to me. Because the skill and rhyming techniques and everything in general can be not super impressive but the over all image and story in the end can make up for it, some songs don't need to be super advance and clever to be good imo
Also that first section of lyrics is unfair to quote because it's the introduction to the song I don't even qualify it as part of the verse
The second part is one of the meh parts in Encore not super bad though
I never said Encore (the song) was "super bad". It's the fact that you called it AMAZING. It's a fucking club track. None of what Em said was good. At ALL.
None of the tracks you mentioned had ANYTHING CLOSE to the storytelling ability Em showed on GTC and Same Song and Dance.
Disagree
Cause we done swam with the sharks, wrestled with alligators
Spoke to a generation of angry teenagers
Whom if it wasn't for rap to bridge the gap, maybe raised to be racist
Who may have never got to see our faces
Grace the cover of Rolling Stone pages, broke down barriers
Of language and races, just call on the caped crusaders
I think those are great lyrics
As far as story telling, I also don't agree. I personally can't listen to Same Song and Dance anymore and I have no idea why (I listened to this song a fair amount when Relapse was first released), it's okay story telling I guess but I first of all don't think it's as good as YBR or LTS, this isn't a very arguable thing this is a mostly personal point.
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