5 Reasons Eminem Will Never Be My Idol [PolicyMic Article]

[yoda you can call me]

jeez are you guys on your periods or sumting... eeeesh

[RoleModel'Est96]

The funny thing is, she has the decency to point how evil Em is for saying he'd cause 'terror to Christina Aguliera and grab her by the hair and drag her across the sahara' but wtf Redman in that very same song says he'd fuck a bitches face and hang out a car window with a gun aimed at the noses of hoes.

Where's that Funk Doc mention doe?

In the damn song Em even says its in his job description to piss off bitches.
If you can't see the tongue-in-cheek in that then gtfo this planet.


(posted in wrong thread b4)

[EminemInsider]

But I thought rape was supposedly about power, not sex? What would an outfit have to do with anything?
In reality, rape is about power. The victim's attire seldom plays a role in the assault. However, the first question asked of any female rape victim is "what was she wearing?" Society loves to blame the victim, and the easiest way to do it is to call her a dumb slut who was totally asking for it because she chose to wear a miniskirt instead of, I don't fucking know, a chastity belt.

I don't know what society you live in, but here in the United States, no 911 operator or police officer or investigator will ever ask what a woman was wearing. It is irrelevant to the law. Unless, of course, the clothes are to be used as evidence in the case (if they contain semen or blood).

Anyone who blames the woman for wearing something provocative is excoriated by the media/most citizens in our country.

What even is the "wrong neighborhood?" Don't get me wrong, I'm not calling you personally a racist, but phrases like that are often euphemisms for racism and classism. Bigots can no longer get away with referring to a predominately black community as "the place where all the [n-words] are," so the they refer to it as "the wrong neighborhood." I lived in a 90% black community for two years and I felt completely safe. It was the kind of place that might be ignorantly labeled "the wrong neighborhood," but not once did anyone there ever even hint at bothering my skinny white ass. I liked that neighborhood a whole lot more than the WASPy suburbia I'm in now. Even if a man does happen to be alone at night in a crime-ridden neighborhood, worst case scenario, he's getting mugged. While that's still awful, isn't exactly on the same level as rape.

Mugged...or killed, depending on the circumstances. I'm not going to bother addressing the rest of that oversensitive, politically correct, sycophantic-leftist nonsense you wrote.

Date rape and a victim having previously known her rapist are not the same thing. An acquaintance may date rape her and it is true that most women are raped by people they already know, but that isn't date rape unless she was drugged. Date rape is also not in any way, shape, or form, a less horrific thing than any other kind of rape. It's still rape. And by the mockery inherent in your "like, soooo amazinggg" comment, it appears you're also victim blaming. :no: If a woman goes to a frat party, drinks a lot, and gets raped, it is no one's fault but the rapist. Rape is always, in every possible scenario, one hundred fucking percent the rapist's fault. Just so we're clear on that.

~sigh~ This is why people despise feminists. The irony is, the more idiots like you whine, the more people like me want to be misogynists.

Again, you're completely missing the point. You started out insisting men have some sort of privilege because they can walk alone in the dark without fear of being raped. That's basically true for women, too. Hardly any women are raped in the dark by men they don't know. That's only slightly more likely than getting struck by lightning. In the grand scheme of things, that's not a "privilege."

:facepalm Jesus Christ. Prison rape is not the same fucking thing. What happens in a confined cell with one's cellmate is not the same as a woman getting pinned down and violated with some sick motherfucker's cock. We don't live in prison. Society is not prison. While I do agree that sometimes rape accusations are false (i.e. the Duke lacrosse scandal) and can ruin an innocent person's life, you've phrased your point in the dumbest way possible. What, are the cops just supposed to say "oh well, we didn't see him rape you, so it didn't happen?" You're also overlooking the fact that the extreme majority of rapes are not reported because the victim is too terrified to tell anyone. Yeah, some fucking privilege that is to have to fear repercussions for notifying the police that you were sexually assaulted.

1. Who said anything about a confined cell?

I'll just say it right now and watch your ridiculous White Knight outrage. A man being raped is worse than a woman being raped. First of all, the vagina is much tougher than the anus. Secondly, the psychological effects of a heterosexual man being raped by another man are more damaging. Your attempt to downplay prison rape shows just how delusional you are. You seem to be implying that prison rape isn't real rape, and that it's somehow consensual. It isn't. The smaller, weaker prisoners are forced into sexual acts by the stronger prisoners.

You'd be better off making the argument, "well, dey're prisoners, dey deserve to raped."

2. I thought we were discussing alleged "privilege?" The woman has the "privilege" to just snap her fingers and get a man thrown in a hellhole even if he didn't do anything. They don't even need forensic evidence to arrest men for rape. What the police should or shouldn't do has nothing to do with whether or not it's a privilege. But if you ask me, they should not be allowed to make an arrest without forensic evidence.

You seem keen on intentionally missing the point and going off on a tangents. You won't stick to discussing the actual points in a given argument, which is typical of those who identify themselves as feminists.

So you're saying drunken douchebags deserve to be raped, then? What a barbaric thought. A woman (or a man, for that matter) should be able to get as hammered as they damn well please, so long as they don't try to drive or hurt anyone, without having to worry about being sexually assaulted. Unfortunately, women don't get that luxury.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying.

Again, we're discussing privilege. For men like me who don't drink, what kind of privilege is this, exactly?

I made a typo there. I meant to say "if she was drunk." And yes, that is frequently bought up in trials regarding rape cases. Society also tends to blame drunk women for their own sexual abuse. Clearly you missed all the vitriol aimed at the Steubenville victim saying she deserved it because she was drunk.

Again, in our society, "she was drunk" is not a defense. In fact, it works for the woman. If she is deemed too drunk to give consent, then it's considered rape. You're living in a fantasy land where women are second class citizens.

Yeah, I missed this alleged vitriol. My guess is you saw maybe 4 or 5 comments somewhere and then applied that to society as a whole. Feminism - making mountains out of molehills since many decades ago.

Oh, cool, thanks for overlooking the part of my post where I pointed that out as a real problem men face.

You're only sticking things in here and there to pretend to be objective.

CNN openly expressed regret that the "promising" lives of the Steubenville rapists who were such great student athletes who "literally watched as they believed their lives fell apart." Boo hoo, cry me a goddamn motherfucking dicksucking river for the poor widdle footbaww pwayers who got the legal equivalent of a slap on the wrist for brutally raping an unconscious young girl and posted the video of her assault on the fucking internet. CNN, one of the world's biggest news outlets, blatantly sympathized with rapists. This is exactly what feminists mean when we use the term "rape culture." http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/18/cnn-feels-sorry-for-steubenville-rapists-world-can-t-believe-its-ears.html

So 1 correspondent = "we live in a rape culture?"

I'm sure you can find this in any case where minors are accused of anything. Kids who shoot up schools are shown sympathy by a select few. "We need to put an end to bullying. This poor kid was driven to this."

How about the Amy Fisher/Joey Buttafuoco stuff? People openly sympathized with this 17-year-old girl who shot and nearly killed his wife.

When the perpetrator is a minor, there are always people who "sympathize." If anything, people are far more likely to make excuses for/sympathize with a female minor who commits a heinous crime than a male one.

Let me stop you right the fuck there. Men want women to be sexual objects.

Ugh. Not this shit.

Women are meant to be nothing but holes to be filled with dicks, and those same women are then called sluts, whores, skanks, etc. for having the aforementioned sex.

Wow, you're a full-fledged, fire-breathing femiNazi. It's clear I'm wasting my time.

Society treats the loss of a man's virginity as something to be celebrated, while a woman's virginity is seen as this pure, sacred thing that should be kept as long as possible. When a man goes out and fucks everything on two legs, he's treated with respect by his peers and seen as an alpha male that all other men should aspire to be. When a woman even does something as benign as go on one too many dates, she's suddenly the biggest slutty skank bitch cunt whore on Whore Island. If that isn't a double standard, nothing is.

Again, women are the ones who slut shame. Men like sluts. Men want women to be sluts, unless they're in a serious relationship with said woman.

Watching porn and jerking off is "just something guys do" (and boy, am I ever guilty of it), but many women go their entire lives without having an orgasm because they never received any education about their sexuality. Society tells girls not to masturbate or explore their bodies and that sexual pleasure is not something they're meant to have. This is pervasive in our media. Three years ago, an excellent film called Blue Valentine was given an NC-17 rating by the Motion Picture Association of America for an inexplicit, non-nude scene depicting cunnilingus. Countless R-rated movies have included blowjob scenes, but the second Ryan Gosling goes down on Michelle Williams, it's some horrible thing that no one under 17 should ever be exposed to. Compare this to David Fincher's The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo remake, in which the titular character is raped in a very graphic manner in two different scenes, one of which contains female nudity. This received an R rating with no edits. I've got nothing against the film, at it is quite good and the victim's revenge is exceptionally satisfying, but the ratings inconsistency here is astonishing. Raping a woman is all well and good, but God forbid you show one experiencing sexual pleasure. For those who don't know, the MPAA ratings board is composed of conservative, middle-aged parents. The documentary This Film is Not Yet Rated is totally worth seeing if you'd like to know more. (Unfortunately, it was made a few years prior to Blue Valentine.)

Isolated things given no context whatsoever, I'm sure. I've seen cunnilingus depicted/implied in several films that weren't given NC-17 ratings. Given the enormous porn industry, I don't see how you can seriously say women are encouraged not to explore their own bodies. You can go on any porn website and find thousands and thousands of videos of women pleasuring themselves.

A fetus is not a living being. It doesn't have rights because it doesn't have thoughts. It's a clump of fucking cells that could potentially become a person if left alone for nine months.

~sigh~ I really do not want to go into an abortion debate. But, to put in the simplest way possible - there's a difference between a live fetus and a dead fetus. Whether you consider it a living human being or not is one thing and can be debated, but it certainly can not be defined as "just a clump of cells." Especially after cellular differentiation has occurred and it has developed a central nervous system. Scientific evidence shows that after a certain point in the development process, fetuses can feel pain.

Think of all the potential babies that die from male masturbation every year. See how ridiculous this argument can get? If you think abortion is murder, every man on this board is a genocidal monster. Every time a condom is used during sex, that's another dead baby, right?

A sperm cell will never grow into a baby. A sperm cell will never experience cellular differentiation. A sperm cell has no central nervous system. It can not feel pain. It's just a cell with genetic material. It's the difference between eating an unfertilized egg in an omelet and cracking open an egg with an unhatched chicken in it. One is pretty fucking cruel, the other is completely harmless.

No man should have a say-so regarding women's reproductive rights. Ever. I repeat ... ever.

I completely disagree.

But if you believe that, then you most certainly should not believe that a man should ever, ever be on the hook for child support payments. After all, it wasn't his decision to have a kid in the first place. She can just opt out at any time, so why should he be required to support her and the kid in any way?

So here's the other side of that "privilege" coin you insisted on again: in our society, many consider women having sex with men as "doing them a favor." And if she gets pregnant, the poor, pregnant woman needs all kinds of love and support and major $$$ from the man. In the words of Gus Fring, "The MAHN must provide for his FAHMILY."

As much as feminists claim women have been oppressed since the beginning of evolution, and whine about men running society...the reality is that for centuries, men had to do all the hard work, all the most dangerous jobs, and were expected to protect the "weaker" women. And the women? They had to stay in the kitchen and cook and take care of the kids.

Feminists complain about men having/having had a few privileges, completely overlooking all the female privilege that exists/existed.

It all goes back to that old cliche: Feminists only want "equal rights" to the extent in which they benefit from them.

The fact that women even have to fight for the right to make decisions regarding their own bodies is completely insane to me. If men could get pregnant, abortion clinics would be as common as McDonald's restaurants.

That second sentence may be true, but it doesn't make it right. If a woman gets pregnant, its her own fault (unless she was raped).

[Trimss]

how did this become a rape thread

[HeySamantha]

I love when people use the "HE KILLS KIM IN SONGS!!! THAT'S AWFUL!!" as a point to hate Eminem. Right, like you never hated someone and wanted to kill them. Same thing, he just recorded his thoughts. It's not like he actually did it.

He has also never been charged or even brought to court on domestic violence, from what I can recall.

[Kmahrle83]

clearly asshole didn't listen to the album or the whole "can't stop bitching about his mother" part wouldn't have made the article, hence making everything he said before or after, stupid and irrelevant.
"

[LEVITIKUZ]

1. Because He Doesn't Respect Christina, Or Anyone, Really.

Who cares about Christina or people?

2. Because He Explicitly Endorses Violence, Particularly Violence Against Women.

As does every rapper ever.

3. Because His Vocabulary Is Limited (and Awful).

This muthafucker reads the dictionary on the can. Seriously who does that? His vocabulary is far from limited.

4. Because He Wants to See His Mother Burn In Hell.

"I'm sorry Mama for Cleanin Out My Closet and all those songs I wrote....I will forever love you, cause you're my mom"

5. Because He Proudly Rapped About Killing Kim ... Many Times.

"Hailey this one is for you, Whitney and Aliana too. I still love your mother that will never change. Think about her everyday. We could never get it together hey wish there was a better way for me to say it but I swear on everything I'd do anything for her on any day."

[Amadeo]

clearly asshole didn't listen to the album or the whole "can't stop bitching about his mother" part wouldn't have made the article, hence making everything he said before or after, stupid and irrelevant.
"

Journalists doing research? Pfft.

[Wego]

In our weakest moments we tend to children and women first and foremost. Men are left to die. This has been one of the most fundamental protocols in disaster response methods since the dawn of time.

Will a man ever be rescued first over the woman? No. Women lives have more value in society. That is the greatest privilege of all.

[biscuitsbrah]

In our weakest moments we tend to children and women first and foremost. Men are left to die. This has been one of the most fundamental protocols in disaster response methods since the dawn of time.

Will a man ever be rescued first over the woman? No. Women lives have more value in society. That is the greatest privilege of all.

Case in point. Feminists = retarded lesbians

[jinofthewind]

This thread went from us talking about a bad article to a bunch of sexist assholes

[jinofthewind]

In our weakest moments we tend to children and women first and foremost. Men are left to die. This has been one of the most fundamental protocols in disaster response methods since the dawn of time.

Will a man ever be rescued first over the woman? No. Women lives have more value in society. That is the greatest privilege of all.

Case in point. Feminists = retarded lesbians

except your still a sexist douchebag
Case in point. biscuitsbrah = retarded forum member

[Wego]

The second law of thermodynamics states that the degree of disorder is always increasing. Eg: Energy can only be converted into an equal amount of disordered energy and not a more ordered. The order of social fabric is the same way. Trying to depart from natural will only make things more disordered. Equalisation is making things more disordered and makes things harder. The social fabric can only be weakened by equality. If you are smart enough it is a simple realisation that equalisation is like trying to reverse a rivers flow with your hands. It will never happen no matter how hard people will try as it is not natural order.
In summary: Feminists are fucking retards. Women are wonderful.

[biscuitsbrah]

In our weakest moments we tend to children and women first and foremost. Men are left to die. This has been one of the most fundamental protocols in disaster response methods since the dawn of time.

Will a man ever be rescued first over the woman? No. Women lives have more value in society. That is the greatest privilege of all.

Case in point. Feminists = retarded lesbians

K. Faggot.

Says the feminist in the friendzone with every woman he knows. How ironic.

[jinofthewind]

Case in point. Feminists = retarded lesbians

K. Faggot.

Says the feminist in the friendzone with every woman he knows. How ironic.