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why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspective

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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby Catastrophic » Nov 15th, '13, 21:11

Its obviously about kim and if you dont no by now ur an idiot :shifty:
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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby eminembound » Nov 15th, '13, 23:36

Drax207 wrote:
beowafle wrote:It makes the song better for me imagining it's Kim's perspective ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby Fury » Nov 15th, '13, 23:40

It's about Ken Kaniff.
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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby LEVITIKUZ » Nov 16th, '13, 00:12

Jimmy Conway wrote:The song is about Kim.

It's a revisit to the MMLP. Kim was a big song, that relationship was a big deal then, probably still is today.

I think it's all about her.

"I'm done being your punching bag, it was the November 31st today
Would've been our anniversary, two years but you left on the 1st of May"

People use that to say it isn't about her. But when asked about Headlights, he wouldn't get into it. A few years ago when asked about Hallie, he wouldn't talk about her, in the MMLP2, he didn't even say Hallie's name, he just said "her" in headlights.

He is trying to get some privacy back in his life, to control what people know, not just let everyone know everything.

November doesn't even have 31 days in it. He just made up a date to not put details of their anniversary on blast.


At first I was like:

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Then when I was thinking "how many days are in November" I was like:

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Then I realized November doesn't have 31 days I was like:

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Never caught that for some reason. Point goes Eminem.
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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby Sofi1993 » Nov 16th, '13, 00:15

Never realized the November 31 thing haha
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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby The Asshole » Nov 16th, '13, 04:31

With how he said the album was a revisitation to some of MMLPs concepts it only makes since for STIW at least for me to believe its from Kim's perspective.
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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby EminemBase » Nov 16th, '13, 05:06

Because Em fans love to make simple songs of his in to bizarre conceptual theories.

Em always makes clear what the concept or his idea is... in fact if there's one major thing to note since his return, it's his paranoia that people won't understand the intention or irony or concept or line... hence why he made Skylar Grey do that little bridge 'fuck you for thinking it's true'...

So there's no way he would just write from Kim's perspective and hope you get it.

Em makes shit crystal clear 'EMINEM KILLED BY M & M, MATTHEW MITCHELL!!'.

The song is 100% a normal love song, from Em's perspective.
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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby trentimus » Nov 16th, '13, 05:12

EminemBase wrote:Because Em fans love to make simple songs of his in to bizarre conceptual theories.

Em always makes clear what the concept or his idea is... in fact if there's one major thing to note since his return, it's his paranoia that people won't understand the intention or irony or concept or line... hence why he made Skylar Grey do that little bridge 'fuck you for thinking it's true'...

So there's no way he would just write from Kim's perspective and hope you get it.

Em makes shit crystal clear 'EMINEM KILLED BY M & M, MATTHEW MITCHELL!!'.

The song is 100% a normal love song, from Em's perspective.


I agree with you but just to play devil's advocate.. not only is he not allowed to say Kim's name but he cannot make it obvious a song is about her. :coffee:
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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby Amadeo » Nov 16th, '13, 05:19

Snake897 wrote:I don't think Eminem is allowed to legally say Kim's name in a song.

Remember 2000? When Eminem didn't care whether he could "legally say" things on songs, and just did it anyway? Back when he called his mother's lawyer a faggot?

Back when he had balls. It wasn't a matter of "oh damn, I can't say his/her name legally on a song." It was "well, they say I can't say his/her name but that's bullshit so I will. Sue me."
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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby Snakebeast » Nov 16th, '13, 05:24

Amadeo wrote:
Snake897 wrote:I don't think Eminem is allowed to legally say Kim's name in a song.

Remember 2000? When Eminem didn't care whether he could "legally say" things on songs, and just did it anyway? Back when he called his mother's lawyer a faggot?

Back when he had balls. It wasn't a matter of "oh damn, I can't say his/her name legally on a song." It was "well, they say I can't say his/her name but that's bullshit so I will. Sue me."

And his mother's lawyer's name was censored on the song.

Not only that, but as much as I hate using this argument, it's valid in this case. Em is a different man now. He's done with all of the drama.
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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby metsfan1121 » Nov 16th, '13, 06:02

I think Eminem had an entire relationship, a serious one, after relapse. Maybe it's still going on, maybe it's not, but I feel like IF he met a girl, he'd try and save her from the publicity he very much hates. Same girl on Recovery he mentions perhaps
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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby EminemBase » Nov 16th, '13, 06:46

trentimus wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Because Em fans love to make simple songs of his in to bizarre conceptual theories.

Em always makes clear what the concept or his idea is... in fact if there's one major thing to note since his return, it's his paranoia that people won't understand the intention or irony or concept or line... hence why he made Skylar Grey do that little bridge 'fuck you for thinking it's true'...

So there's no way he would just write from Kim's perspective and hope you get it.

Em makes shit crystal clear 'EMINEM KILLED BY M & M, MATTHEW MITCHELL!!'.

The song is 100% a normal love song, from Em's perspective.


I agree with you but just to play devil's advocate.. not only is he not allowed to say Kim's name but he cannot make it obvious a song is about her. :coffee:


It might be ABOUT her. But it certainly is not from her or a female perspective.

People just want to make a flat-out emotional song more complex, because it's Em.
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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby EminemInsider » Nov 16th, '13, 06:53

trentimus wrote:I dont really think the lyrics make sense for it to be Kim.. But it wouldn't change how I feel.. He can't sing, so it makes no sense when it's not like Mockingbird or something meaningful..


He can sing pretty well, he just often chooses not to.
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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby Trilla » Nov 16th, '13, 06:53

Amadeo wrote:
Snake897 wrote:I don't think Eminem is allowed to legally say Kim's name in a song.

Remember 2000? When Eminem didn't care whether he could "legally say" things on songs, and just did it anyway? Back when he called his mother's lawyer a faggot?

Back when he had balls. It wasn't a matter of "oh damn, I can't say his/her name legally on a song." It was "well, they say I can't say his/her name but that's bullshit so I will. Sue me."

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Re: why does everyone say STIW is written from Kims perspec

Postby Hadez » Nov 16th, '13, 06:56

EminemBase wrote:
trentimus wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Because Em fans love to make simple songs of his in to bizarre conceptual theories.

Em always makes clear what the concept or his idea is... in fact if there's one major thing to note since his return, it's his paranoia that people won't understand the intention or irony or concept or line... hence why he made Skylar Grey do that little bridge 'fuck you for thinking it's true'...

So there's no way he would just write from Kim's perspective and hope you get it.

Em makes shit crystal clear 'EMINEM KILLED BY M & M, MATTHEW MITCHELL!!'.

The song is 100% a normal love song, from Em's perspective.


I agree with you but just to play devil's advocate.. not only is he not allowed to say Kim's name but he cannot make it obvious a song is about her. :coffee:


It might be ABOUT her. But it certainly is not from her or a female perspective.

People just want to make a flat-out emotional song more complex, because it's Em.

Just want to also point out that people don't realize the relationship was bad for both of them. They assume he was a total ass and she was the only one hurt. In reality, if it is about KIm, he's going into detail about that side of his emotions. With this in mind, they also assume anger is the only emotion he's ever felt towards her. Eminem is human too.
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