Could Eminem's recent "choppy" flow be a result of him

[trentimus]

It's not a flaw...

Yeah it's him doing that but it's just new styles, as always.

People say it like he's accidentally fucking up his flow lmao, like it's broken.

No, he's doing that intentionally! It's how he's sounding on purpose.

Yes. His voice has always been dominant over the beat, especially in MMLP. He's always layered vocals at certain points in the line and for rhymes to make parts more powerful/louder/stick out more. He isn't changing approaches. Because his approach naturally yields different results, some people think it's a different approach altogether. His style is to rap unorthodox.

Double triple times aren't unorthodox. His flow pre-rehab was smooth as fuck I wouldn't call it unorthodox.

His post rehab flows have varied so much more and would be incredibly hard for any other rapper to reproduce.. The way he raps on every snare with his double-triple flow is impressive on a technical level but it's still a little rough for the musicality. He is leaning more on his technique than being a part of the song. I feel that's a difference in MMLP to MMLP2

One is a effortless, smooth intertwined flow that could be built into the beat. But MMLP2 is clearly on a higher technical wavelength. Switching flows constantly within each song and having a under/over enunciated delivery is obviously not easy.. But outside of praising an already well recognized wordsmith and a clear veteran rapper with a huge slew of flows to begin with, I want a smooth flow/delivery.

That being said I love the shit out of Brainless, Groundhog Day, and Don't Front.. Those are some examples of his best rapping of recent years.

[trentimus]

I wasn't really critiquing what you said.

I was really just saying his flow now is more unorthodox or what I would consider.. His flow back then wasn't so much different to me as it was smooth/magical/like a baby's butt.

Yeah, I meant double time. I am not really criticizing the album for being overly technical. I love Relapse, and I am REALLY enjoying MMLP2. But, at times you have to admit he forces the rhymes into some songs at the sacrifice of a smoother song. Which is fine, I like it regardless.. Like I am saying Groundhog Day, Brainless, Rap God, Evil Twin, Legacy, Baby, and Don't Front he raps his ass off and I still love it.

But he has moments like Beautiful Pain which oddly to me is one of the best sonic songs to me. He seems mostly effortless over it vs a song where he is pressing the issue of how good a rapper he is. I guess I am just trying to say it seemed like Em before set out to make a good song and now more wants to send a message with each verse "hey look at me I am 40 and still killing these bars"..

You have to remember with my critique I keep saying I enjoy the album.. It's like Relapse for me, I could do without the accents throughout 90% of the album.. But I still enjoy it.. A LOT.

Edit: MMLP2 is his best album since TES and he found a healthy balance between technical and musical this time around.. Also in balancing his content.
This isn't my issue with the album. TBH my issue with the album is this simple list:

Production on Asshole
The bonus songs could of replaced base tracks (no big but Beautiful Pain is easily the best mushy track he has made IMO for feels in the genre crossover, I even really like Desperation and Wicked Ways, the others are common consensus)
I cannot stand Stronger Than I Was (not just because it's not rappity.. It's just bad to me)
Survival should of never made the base tracklist (not because it's bad but because it's a clear recovery track)
The chop flow is the bottom of this problem list to me.. Not that big of a deal

[Hopsinshadie]

Eminem should just be more natural. His lyrics will always be there.

[trentimus]

Eminem should just be more natural. His lyrics will always be there.

And, this. He has well dominated his way into the GOAT category of wordsmiths.. People can argue him
Maybe out of top 5 great "ever" arguments but no one can deny the mans ability to weave words.

[Hopsinshadie]

Eminem should just be more natural. His lyrics will always be there.

And, this. He has well dominated his way into the GOAT category of wordsmiths.. People can argue him
Maybe out of top 5 great "ever" arguments but no one can deny the mans ability to weave words.

Which is why now he has to focus on his delivery. He has already proved he has the lyrics, but he must use them properly.

[skc_]

Go back to old flow Em. Like hop said, it's more natural.

[mdemaz]

He used to rap like this in his Bassmint days.

[Kill You]

He used to rap like this in his Bassmint days.

Exactly lol. And Hopsinshadie is one of the people wanting him to GO BACK to that.

[nxt-semster-illB35]

He used to rap like this in his Bassmint days.

Exactly lol. And Hopsinshadie is one of the people wanting him to GO BACK to that.

Nah i think he means SSEP onwards if im not mistaken.

Isn't his rapid-fire multi rapping initially what kept him from being taken seriously?? Rapid fire gibberish<slower lines that are understood right away so have greater impact to more people (alot of his newer stuff, only hardcore fans will get after like 5 listens). Funny now that everyone is praising him for it. He needs to go back to when he would intertwine smoothly with the beat, rather than rap circles around it. It sounds so much better in the former.

[nxt-semster-illB35]

I take it back. There are 2 songs. I initially counted Love Game because it is "fast" but it isn't gibberish in any way at all.

the gibberish thing was reference to his bassmint days. I'm pretty sure he described it as such, or something along those lines, in an old interview he did