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Re: The Evolution of Eminem

Postby Amadeo » Nov 18th, '13, 14:09

EminemInsider wrote:1998-mid-1999: Excitenem. Couldn't contain his excitement. Went in with the attitude, "blow Dre away." Re-recorded songs from the EP and others he'd done with the Bass brothers underground to form the core of the album, then made the singles with Dre, largely using verses he'd already written a while back. Dre offered Eminem some ecstasy in the booth and they wrote some throwaway tracks about bouncing off walls and shit. That's when Eminem learned that ecstasy is fun, but you can't write worth a shit on it. But when he went on tour, he decided to enjoy the shit out of it and try some of the drugs he talked about in his songs.

Mid-1999-mid-2000: Angrynem. Now he realizes how full of shit the media is. This gives him an idea now that he can't rap about bein broke no more. He'll become a target who shoots back. His goal is to make the media look stupid, and he knows all eyes are on him so his message will get out there. Ready to dedicate virtually his entire album to that goal.

Yep. Nailed it.

Don't you think 1998-1999 was utter relief, too?

"Wow...all those rhymes I wrote and all the work I did in the last three years is going to pay off. I'll just ride these lyric sheets out for at least two albums. The first album is basically written and recorded already, and half of the second album is written. Now that the hard part is done, all I need to do is the recording/voice acting part and start yelling more on the mic like Dre says. Meanwhile I'll just party and do drugs. Time to enjoy the fruits of my labor."

Then when he lost the famous Britney Spears notebook that featured all his golden material from 1996-2000, he thought, "uh oh. Now I actually have to stop this partying shit and write some rhymes again. But since I'm rich and no longer write rhymes in my head while I'm mopping floors (to no beat in particular), I can write lyrics to beats that producers send me."

Enter the "beat-riding" phase of Eminem's flow. Enter all the shit about his previous two albums being "behind the beat."
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Re: The Evolution of Eminem

Postby EminemInsider » Nov 20th, '13, 06:07

Amadeo wrote:
EminemInsider wrote:1998-mid-1999: Excitenem. Couldn't contain his excitement. Went in with the attitude, "blow Dre away." Re-recorded songs from the EP and others he'd done with the Bass brothers underground to form the core of the album, then made the singles with Dre, largely using verses he'd already written a while back. Dre offered Eminem some ecstasy in the booth and they wrote some throwaway tracks about bouncing off walls and shit. That's when Eminem learned that ecstasy is fun, but you can't write worth a shit on it. But when he went on tour, he decided to enjoy the shit out of it and try some of the drugs he talked about in his songs.

Mid-1999-mid-2000: Angrynem. Now he realizes how full of shit the media is. This gives him an idea now that he can't rap about bein broke no more. He'll become a target who shoots back. His goal is to make the media look stupid, and he knows all eyes are on him so his message will get out there. Ready to dedicate virtually his entire album to that goal.

Yep. Nailed it.

Don't you think 1998-1999 was utter relief, too?

"Wow...all those rhymes I wrote and all the work I did in the last three years is going to pay off. I'll just ride these lyric sheets out for at least two albums. The first album is basically written and recorded already, and half of the second album is written. Now that the hard part is done, all I need to do is the recording/voice acting part and start yelling more on the mic like Dre says. Meanwhile I'll just party and do drugs. Time to enjoy the fruits of my labor."

Then when he lost the famous Britney Spears notebook that featured all his golden material from 1996-2000, he thought, "uh oh. Now I actually have to stop this partying shit and write some rhymes again. But since I'm rich and no longer write rhymes in my head while I'm mopping floors (to no beat in particular), I can write lyrics to beats that producers send me."

Enter the "beat-riding" phase of Eminem's flow. Enter all the shit about his previous two albums being "behind the beat."


That's a possibility, but it may also be that Eminem was trying to cover up for his loss of ability to create clever flows thanks to being hooked on Ambien in 2002. "In TES, just listen to When the Music Stops, Business, and Square Dance...that's when I'm really sinking into the beat, you know what I'm sayin? When I'm monotonously riding it. I hate my other albums now. Yeah, that's it!"
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Re: The Evolution of Eminem

Postby Whitefox » Nov 20th, '13, 08:38

Hey, GoBerzerk. I liked what you wrote and I wonder If I can use some of your thoughts for an article? I'll translate it and you probably will never see this, but anyway I think that I need your permission for doing it.
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Re: The Evolution of Eminem

Postby EriCartman » Nov 20th, '13, 14:38

Woow reading your guys Evolutions, I start doubting Em as one of the GOAT's of the Rap Game.
More like a mediocre rapper with a few lucky years in wich he put out good material while high on drugs.

2013 Eminem > 2009 Eminem.
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Re: The Evolution of Eminem

Postby Jens14 » Nov 20th, '13, 20:07

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This is a picture from Encore (2004)... Not 2001-2002.
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Re: The Evolution of Eminem

Postby Drax207 » Nov 20th, '13, 21:12

Jens14 wrote:Image

This is a picture from Encore (2004)... Not 2001-2002.


Alright Stan, fixed it :p

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Idon't know dude, 2013 Em is dope but 2009 Em was pretty awesome too...
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Mr. Porter wrote:I also thought he sounded off-beat.

Porter plz, don't you have a youtube awards performance to fuck up

As a matter of fact I do. Thanks for reminding me.
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Re: The Evolution of Eminem

Postby Satan » Nov 20th, '13, 23:57

Whitefox wrote:Hey, GoBerzerk. I liked what you wrote and I wonder If I can use some of your thoughts for an article? I'll translate it and you probably will never see this, but anyway I think that I need your permission for doing it.

Sure. Go ahead.
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Re: The Evolution of Eminem

Postby Trilla » Nov 21st, '13, 07:28

EriCartman wrote:Woow reading your guys Evolutions, I start doubting Em as one of the GOAT's of the Rap Game.
More like a mediocre rapper with a few lucky years in wich he put out good material while high on drugs.

2013 Eminem > 2009 Eminem.

No, the drugs wasn't what made him put out the good material.

Hard work and dedication was what made him put it out. The drugs were just used recreationally, when he wasn't busting his ass making raps. I guess you could make the argument that the drugs helped him evoke "Slim Shady" but...as far as the incredible rhyme schemes, amazing flow and delivery, and great story-telling, those were all a result of him working extremely hard.

The drugs didn't really spill into his work until 2004-2005...shit you could even make the case that around 2003 it really affected his work, as well. But, of course, the weed, shrooms, and ecstasy he was taking during 97-01 couldn't have affected his work as negatively as the pills he was taking during 8 Mile.

2013 Eminem is like a perfected 2009 Eminem.
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Tragic portrait of an artist tortured
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Re: The Evolution of Eminem

Postby kkaniff » Nov 21st, '13, 08:01

What, no Fag-ineminsider-nem?
From 2011 'till date.
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All I have in this world is a pistol and a promise, a fist full of dollars, a list full of problems...
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Re: The Evolution of Eminem

Postby shadyblogger » Nov 21st, '13, 08:57

Let me just say that -GoBerzerk- your post was fascinating to read! I didn't know as much info as I thought I did and the way you organized it all was amazing! Good job!
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