Asher Roth Responds to Eminem Diss

[VINTAGƎ]

I just thought of it more as people counting Eminem out but he's back to top form. And he used the Asher line as an example.

The diss track days were fun but no (smart) rapper with a career to think about is going to get on a track and insult Eminem. That shit is not happening. Partly out of respect, partly because they don't want to get Mariah'd, Benzino'd, Murder Inc'd, etc.

The only disses you'll hear from here on in are from people like the group that did the Lookin Boy shit or whatever.

No respectable emcee is out there saying "oh let me say some shit about that Eminem guy."

[Crazee]

It's a business thing too too, people don't want to go at Em because his fanbase is huge and they could lose some fans over it.

And like...Eminem goes after people who are well known for the most part. Even underground acts like Canibus, Dilated Peoples and ICP have high name recognition. Most of the people that diss him now are nobodies so why say anything?

Asheroth didn't diss Em, but he has name recognition so he was used as an example to relive his early days.

[VINTAGƎ]

It's a business thing too too, people don't want to go at Em because his fanbase is huge and they could lose some fans over it.

And like...Eminem goes after people who are well known for the most part. Even underground acts like Canibus, Dilated Peoples and ICP have high name recognition. Most of the people that diss him now are nobodies so why say anything?

Asheroth didn't diss Em, but he has name recognition so he was used as an example to relive his early days.

There's a lot of factors in play I think. As mentioned before, he thinks everyone is "dope" now. Even songs it seems like he hasn't heard. Like with Mackelmore. "Yeah I heard his album. What? What song? Oh that one. Yeah. He's dope."

So there's that, plus the clout. Rap is competitive until there is a clear victor. He earned his stripes, he's proven to be one of the big dogs in the game. I remember like six years ago when Diplomats went at Jay. That shit ended real quick. You look at where they are (or were?) to where Jay is, even though I don't like him personally, you just look like a hater going at someone that big when you're that small. It's like rap should have different belts like boxing does. Lightweights shouldn't go at heavyweights. Climb up in ranks, then do it. The heavyweight has nothing to gain by answering little guys.

So there's that, then there's, as I mentioned, the respect factor. Hell up until a few days ago I thought Ice Cube was an Em hater, until I read his comments about Rap God. And maybe he was an Em hater at some point and then realized this guy has been in the game 15 years commercially, he's the real deal, and it was like a rite of passage, and now he's accepted.

A lot of artists out now grew up listening to SSLP and MMLP, he's a legend in their eyes. They're not gonna diss a legend just to gain some shine.

And flat out, whether people think I'm stanning or not, there is a certain level of intimidation that comes with dissing Eminem. This dude put his mom on blast. He even puts his own personal shit on blast. There is nothing he won't say on a record. No one wants to get into that kind of battle with a guy who grew up battle rapping, has no problem crossing the line, and is more technically skilled than he's ever been. People aren't exactly lining up to go at him. They've seen what happens when you do that. Careers end.

I know his competition wasn't exactly challenging, but you play who's in front of you. People like Nas and Jay never decided to go at him. It was the Nick Cannons, Ja Rules and Benzinos of the world. It's not his fault. He didn't select them. I guess Canibus would be an exception but Em fought back too. Almost everyone else who's gone up against Eminem is a clown. Figuratively and literally (ICP).

[VINTAGƎ]

I just thought of it more as people counting Eminem out but he's back to top form. And he used the Asher line as an example.

The diss track days were fun but no (smart) rapper with a career to think about is going to get on a track and insult Eminem. That shit is not happening. Partly out of respect, partly because they don't want to get Mariah'd, Benzino'd, Murder Inc'd, etc.

The only disses you'll hear from here on in are from people like the group that did the Lookin Boy shit or whatever.

No respectable emcee is out there saying "oh let me say some shit about that Eminem guy."

I think the only way Em will ever get involved is if a label mate is attacked, someone like Yela.

I could see that. I don't know, I haven't kept up with rap beefs in a while, I don't even know if that shit still happens. The last public one I remember was Chris Brown v Drake

You bring up another element though. If you go at Em, you have to deal with Slaughterhouse, and vice versa. I don't know how strong Yela would be in a battle but I would imagine Em + SH would be some scary shit. No one's interested in doing that shit.

[VINTAGƎ]

If I could make a football reference here -- Eminem and D12 was like Manning on the Colts. Manning was carrying weaker players on his back, as evidenced by their 2-14 record when he went down.

Eminem and Slaughterhouse is Manning on the Broncos. A better team overall with plenty of weapons.

Eminem would be proud of my reference

[Francesco]

He took it like a man... that otha' dude was a total idiot though.

I never get those subliminal disses.

[VINTAGƎ]

Shady Records vs TDE

Naaa. Em and Kendrick are homies.

*Envisions a Shady 2.0 + TDE beef against ______*

This is why I don't like coming on here. You guys get me too excited for shit that'll never happen.

[Francesco]

Shady Records vs TDE

Em, 50 & Kendrick against the whole industry though...

[VINTAGƎ]

If I could make a football reference here -- Eminem and D12 was like Manning on the Colts. Manning was carrying weaker players on his back, as evidenced by their 2-14 record when he went down.

Eminem and Slaughterhouse is Manning on the Broncos. A better team overall with plenty of weapons.

Eminem would be proud of my reference

Check Do Rae Me. Better than any diss Slaughterhouse could come with. Royce could probably be the only one to diss at that level.

I prefer their Quitter stuff actually but -- na man, they're not total scrubs. I mean, I believe they grew up in that same battle world Em came from. They can hold their own, but lyrically and flow wise, Slaughterhouse is better. They just have no target to use it on.

If someone legit said some personal shit about any of the members, I'm sure all 4 would go in.

[Solace]

I suddenly have the urge to listen to Asher Roth again

[Emadyville]

it wasnt really a diss to begin with, it was more of em saying im not gone look at this album. but that song was how long ago too, surprised em mentioned it now

[HG-3]

I think the only way Em will ever get involved is if a label mate is attacked, someone like Yela.

You know about that whole Lord Jamar and Yela beef/spat that went on about Jamar's "white rappers" comments?

Yela is ready to fight..like fist fight. he told him he hopes to see Jamar at one of his shows. Anyways, Jamar played it safe and put Eminem on his "fav white rappers list"

Yela was attacked

[Epidemik]

I suddenly have the urge to listen to Asher Roth again

hahaha this.

he took it well.. and he said it best.. its just Em being Em.

[EG.]

WOAT hair

[Francesco]

WOAT hair

I know... Right? He looks so ridiculous...