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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby EminemBase » Nov 29th, '13, 10:29

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CanadaPure wrote:Well, you can't say what you want in this thread anymore, because it's off-topic as hell. If it's that much of a fucking issue, PM SajN. He'll tell you some of the exact same shit I did. When it gets to the point that it's pissing off a majority, or we're getting repeated complaints about it, it's a problem. It might not be a perfect system, I can admit that, but there has to be some guidelines set otherwise the place goes to shit.

Mononym is the one who's been told this, and he's been more mature about it than you have, which is a little bit ridiculous.

Enough of it in this thread, either PM a mod/admin to talk about it more, or just let it go. Because if you keep derailing this shit (although, I understand you were already replying when I made the edit), you're going to end up with a point for a stupid-ass reason

Enough.


You think it's immature to fight censorship :confusion:

How ridiculous. You're the immature one for trying to enforce it in stupid ways.

Monomonononomym was on-topic for a start.

God, people are fucking children. Learn to have conflict of ideas without "OMG, THIS ISN'T EXACTLY TO MY LIKING, STOP IT BEING SAID!!1, STOP IT!!!". Fucking babies.


Naw man this has nothing to do about censoring. Its like if a student is being annoying in class, does the teacher not kick him out? The teacher wont be like "well its free speech so ill let him keep at it." You should be banned if your messaging just so you can annoy and piss people off.

Dont compare this to eminem shit. Eminem doesnt go around forcing kids to listen to his music, He makes his music and kids choose to listen to it or not. If someone wants to go and make a blog and talk shit about eminem than he can go do that, and whoever wants to see it can go see it. Just dont message for the sake of annoying people.


1. This is not a class, this is a forum aka a DISCUSSION GROUND. A school is an industrialized institution designed to teach the majority a very quick set of limited world perspectives and proven ideas to set them up to work in an industrialized work force...

That is not the same as an open discussion. A more fair comparison would perhaps be a very good University on philosophy or something: and I think you'll find that yeah, if somebody is even shouting or trying to get what may look like nonsensical disruption out in to the open - a good teacher or think will allow it, confront the disruption and make it part of the discussion.

Because the question of 'why is this guy shouting' is just as valid and often more interesting than the current discussion at hand, and you cannot predict where that will lead.

2. Nobody is forcing you, or anybody here to look at Mononononononomy's responses. So again this comparison doesn't work. You can simply blank or scroll past his responses or choose to not engage with him just like people could/can glance Eminem's albums on the shelves and choose to not buy them, or hear him on the radio and change the station.

Should people you don't like be banned from the radio? That is comparable to what you're saying.

We're all forced to initially see or hear things we don't like all the time... but we're not forced to stay engaged with them. What if I find what you're saying right now or in any given moment annoying... should I be allowed to have you censored because it annoys me?

Annoyance is subjective, you can't go around fucking censoring everything which bugs you. You can choose to move past it, ignore it, walk in another direction, change the station, turn the page or scroll past it - what if there's plenty who agree with or want to hear what you don't? The entire concept of censoring ideas is always self-centered and it's always moronic.
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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby Kill You » Nov 29th, '13, 11:47

Yes yes, I admit everyone, I was talking shit about Kanye to rustle mono's jimmies. I actually like Kanye but the last post I made about him was completely serious, he fucked up. But I have promised CP that I'll stop/slow down.
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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby EminemBase » Nov 29th, '13, 12:36

bigray wrote:Other forums I go on you can't even swear lol this forum is extremely lenient tbh mononym or anyone else who who acts stupid would've been banned ages ago else where.


Well that's ridiculous. You know why forums like 4Chan flourish and harbour social movements like Anonymous? Because they DON'T do that.

It's always retarded to try and censor, and direct conversational flow or ideas. None of us know what good or bad will come out of a particular direction... but it's just ideas, nobody is at danger, philosophically it's just a really dumb and arrogant thing to think you have good foresight on the worthiness of a conversational flow or set of ideas.

It's a forum, that should be what it's for. Free flowing ideas.

People regulate themselves, you don't need to do it, it works like evolution.

I might just make a fucking truly unchained forum, because this is childish bullshit.
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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby Kill You » Nov 29th, '13, 12:45

The thing is that mononym says things TO piss people off on this forum and it derails topics. He actually doesn't even dislike MMLP2 he gave it like a 7/10. Same thing with what I was doing with Kanye. I was doing it to get under his skin. I was one of the people doing this and even I agree that it needs to slow down.

Give your opinion, and don't censor it. But what mononym and I were doing counts as trolling.
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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby EminemBase » Nov 29th, '13, 12:58

Kill You wrote:The thing is that mononym says things TO piss people off on this forum and it derails topics. He actually doesn't even dislike MMLP2 he gave it like a 7/10. Same thing with what I was doing with Kanye. I was doing it to get under his skin. I was one of the people doing this and even I agree that it needs to slow down.

Give your opinion, and don't censor it. But what mononym and I were doing counts as trolling.


So what? just ignore him...

Discussion could upshot from things he says which could lead to... like NOW - a discussion on free speech, don't you think a discussion towards the rights of people to speak freely, or not, or what the validity is of some vs. no censorship is a worthy direction of ideas?

What can come of provocation can be huge.

Eminem on MMLP was the equivalent of an artistic troll. He was saying things TO piss people off; the absolute irony that mods on an Eminem board are trying to warn or ban people trying to provoke others, on a forum of an artist they worship who is the epitome of that concept.

It is no different. It's an attempt to censor provocation.

Just ignore him and don't read what he says... what's so hard about that.

You actually don't need to censor anything or anybody because people and society and art and everything self-regulates. If somebody is provoking and nobody is reacting, that person WILL eventually tire... you are feeding in to the provocation even in trying to censor him or having the discussion on why he shouldn't say what he says.

If somebody's provocation is not valid, it will die out when nobody pays attention to it. Or, if there's something valid within the provocation, people will react and discussion will ensue... or we can just all have this argument every coupla weeks and go through this same tiring process everytime somebody starts trying to wind a few of you up. You gonna ban every single person who ever trolls? Do you realize how ridiculously difficult that will be if TR ever begins to grow hugely?

If you don't like what somebody has to say, ignore them. Problem solved.
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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby Whitefox » Nov 29th, '13, 13:27

EminemBase is dick riding mononym lol.
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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby EminemBase » Nov 29th, '13, 13:37

Whitefox wrote:EminemBase is dick riding mononym lol.


No I'm dick riding the ability to say what you want and not be censored.

Mononononononomym can eat a fridge full of dick.
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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby Kill You » Nov 29th, '13, 13:48

I mean EmBase for the most part I do agree with you. They didn't tell him to totally stop they just told him to slow down. Censorship is stupid, you're right, but in some cases some people just need to shut the hell up like me and mononym needed to do.
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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby Whitefox » Nov 29th, '13, 13:53

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Whitefox wrote:EminemBase is dick riding mononym lol.


No I'm dick riding the ability to say what you want and not be censored.

Mononononononomym can eat a fridge full of dick.


I know, but mononym is a different story. There are numerous people here who criticize Eminem's work pretty often, they do this in a clever way and you can evolve it into a good discussion. But mononym just posts piles of shit. Nobody likes to be around piles of shit.
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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby Kill You » Nov 29th, '13, 13:55

Whitefox wrote:
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Whitefox wrote:EminemBase is dick riding mononym lol.


No I'm dick riding the ability to say what you want and not be censored.

Mononononononomym can eat a fridge full of dick.


I know, but mononym is a different story. There are numerous people here who criticize Eminem's work pretty often, they do this in a clever way and you can evolve it into a good discussion. But mononym just posts piles of shit. Nobody likes to be around piles of shit.


His room is filled with Yeezus posters. One can argue that last statement.
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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby EminemBase » Nov 29th, '13, 13:55

Whitefox wrote:
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Whitefox wrote:EminemBase is dick riding mononym lol.


No I'm dick riding the ability to say what you want and not be censored.

Mononononononomym can eat a fridge full of dick.


I know, but mononym is a different story. There are numerous people here who criticize Eminem's work pretty often, they do this in a clever way and you can evolve it into a good discussion. But mononym just posts piles of shit. Nobody likes to be around piles of shit.


But HOWEVER anybody expresses what they express... it doesn't matter.

It's not about clever, stupid, trolling, loud, quiet, smart, silly...

It's about anybody having the right to do that. What if I found your way of expressing... stupid or annoying? Should I be allowed to have you censored?

It doesn't matter, just ignore what you don't like. Why is that a big deal.
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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby SajN » Nov 29th, '13, 13:59

Do you want this forum to be filled with trolls which makes the members who wants to have a good discussion leave? That is what's gonna happen if we let those trolls evolve freely here.
This forum is gonna become a forum like the official one back in the days if we let what you want happen.

And frankly... I don't want that. We've already had several good members leave because of trolls. Maybe you'll enjoy it, but most of the members here won't.
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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby Kill You » Nov 29th, '13, 14:04

SajN wrote:Do you want this forum to be filled with trolls which makes the members who wants to have a good discussion leave? That is what's gonna happen if we let those trolls evolve freely here.
This forum is gonna become a forum like the official one back in the days if we let what you want happen.

And frankly... I don't want that. We've already had several good members leave because of trolls. Maybe you'll enjoy it, but most of the members here won't.


Hell no, we've already lost BasedShady to this shit. That was the biggest blow.

EmBase make your forum I would honestly join it lol. Of course TR would still be my home but I would participate in yours.
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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby Whitefox » Nov 29th, '13, 14:06

EminemBase wrote:
But HOWEVER anybody expresses what they express... it doesn't matter.

It's not about clever, stupid, trolling, loud, quiet, smart, silly...

It's about anybody having the right to do that. What if I found your way of expressing... stupid or annoying? Should I be allowed to have you censored?

It doesn't matter, just ignore what you don't like. Why is that a big deal.


You're reaching. Every single forum which is run by your logic is about to turn into a fucking mess sooner or later.
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Re: Did Em do this on purpose?

Postby Kill You » Nov 29th, '13, 14:09

YOU AIN'T GOT THE ANSWERS EMINEMBASE!!!!!

All jokes aside I agree with what bigray said. I usually agree with what you have to say and enjoy your posts but in this case I don't agree at all.
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