MMLP2 is NOT a classic.

[Fury]

I think this album has the necessary number of prolific songs to become a classic in a year or two.

Berzerk is a hit. Rap God is a hit. Bad Guy, Brainless, Love Game, and Baby are legit very good songs with Bad Guy's last verse being a classic. Rhyme or Reason, and So Far demonstrate another form of evolution. Baby, Groundhog Day, and Evil Twin still have that old school Eminem vibe. Survival is an anthem that I find to be less corny than when I first heard it. And Headlights is touching a lot of people. I think it has the ingredients for a classic, and I'm starting to get that collective feel for all those songs having a Marshall Mathers LP 2 aroma.

[Steelez]

It seems to me that the most highly acclaimed and well-received albums these past few years have all, for the most part, had some conceptual basis or very notable distinction from the rest (which is to be expected and is totally understandable), while albums with not so unique deliveries usually aren't given the same merit. mmlp2 sounds like another good or great album imo

[Steelez]

i'm sure plenty of people called mmlp a classic lol

It received pretty good reviews on release. Yeezus was given more universal praise than MMLP at release.

Hes talking about the fans, not the critics

[Accor]

i'm sure plenty of people called mmlp a classic lol

It received pretty good reviews on release. Yeezus was given more universal praise than MMLP at release.

well yeah, but wasn't a lot of the reception blinded by the controversial subject matter? obviously him using words like faggot or whatever aren't valid criticisms in this case and a lot of reviewers cite that kind of stuff as flaws right? I mean i think mmlp is overrated but it definitely received better reception than the sequel no matter what metacritic says lol

[Steelez]

I think this album has the necessary number of prolific songs to become a classic in a year or two.

Berzerk is a hit. Rap God is a hit. Bad Guy, Brainless, Love Game, and Baby are legit very good songs with Bad Guy's last verse being a classic. Rhyme or Reason, and So Far demonstrate another form of evolution. Baby, Groundhog Day, and Evil Twin still have that old school Eminem vibe. Survival is an anthem that I find to be less corny than when I first heard it. And Headlights is touching a lot of people. I think it has the ingredients for a classic, and I'm starting to get that collective feel for all those songs having a Marshall Mathers LP 2 aroma.

Carter 4 had a lot of radio hits but it will never become a classic

[Steelez]

i'm sure plenty of people called mmlp a classic lol

It received pretty good reviews on release. Yeezus was given more universal praise than MMLP at release.

well yeah, but wasn't a lot of the reception blinded by the controversial subject matter? obviously him using words like faggot or whatever aren't valid criticisms in this case and a lot of reviewers cite that kind of stuff as flaws right? I mean i think mmlp is overrated but it definitely received better reception than the sequel no matter what metacritic says lol

This.
If anything, mmlp2 has been more appreciated by the critics than the general audience

[yoda you can call me]

if it wasn't for his gay slurs, Bitchsquawk would of rated it highly, and you people that rely on their kind of say so, would be singing a different tune. not that any of it matters, albums are subjective like vintage was stating.
It's vintage Eminem to me, and given the fact that em has been universally praised by his peers as one of the Goats in hiphop, then thats saying something

[kkaniff]

Y'all really don't remember Yahoo calling for a boycott, HuffPost's "Eminem, there's blood on your hands" routine, several Em bashing articles, writers mentioning it in damn near every review?
Fuck, Sia had to donate her proceeds from the song to charity, and y'all are saying there was no controversy? FOH.

[Fury]

I think this album has the necessary number of prolific songs to become a classic in a year or two.

Berzerk is a hit. Rap God is a hit. Bad Guy, Brainless, Love Game, and Baby are legit very good songs with Bad Guy's last verse being a classic. Rhyme or Reason, and So Far demonstrate another form of evolution. Baby, Groundhog Day, and Evil Twin still have that old school Eminem vibe. Survival is an anthem that I find to be less corny than when I first heard it. And Headlights is touching a lot of people. I think it has the ingredients for a classic, and I'm starting to get that collective feel for all those songs having a Marshall Mathers LP 2 aroma.

Carter 4 had a lot of radio hits but it will never become a classic

Well, Carter 4 also doesn't have any legit good songs. That album is basically Jay Z jerking himself off in front of abstract painting that even he doesn't understand for old white people.

[Mr Change]

Well, Carter 4 also doesn't have any legit good songs. That album is basically Jay Z jerking himself off in front of abstract painting that even he doesn't understand for old white people.

[VINTAGƎ]

Kind of off topic -- but anyone getting tired of the double standad when it comes to album reviews for Jay Kanye and Em?

Jay and Kanye put out Niggas in Paris (2011), with a Blades Of Glory (2007) sample.

No one said anything.

If Eminem did that -- "Eminem continues to use embarrassingly dated references. This time around using a sample from a four year old movie."

Hell, I actually saw people complain about the Clinton line in Rap God when he clearly was using that as a point of reference to show how long he's been on the top of the charts. Smh.

But Jay-z can use obscure, unrelatable lines like "I'm the new Jean Michel" and "this Wayne Perry flow."

Pseudo artistic/intellectual garbage that hipster critics eat the fuck up.

Sure, Em gets sales because of his skin color, but gets harshly reviewed because of it too.

[Excita]

who the fuck thinks that album is classic when it's been around for little over a month, just wait couple of years and everyone calls it classic. For me MMLP2 is like an bible.

[yoda you can call me]

Kind of off topic -- but anyone getting tired of the double standad when it comes to album reviews for Jay Kanye and Em?

Jay and Kanye put out Niggas in Paris (2011), with a Blades Of Glory (2007) sample.

No one said anything.

If Eminem did that -- "Eminem continues to use embarrassingly dated references. This time around using a sample from a four year old movie."

Hell, I actually saw people complain about the Clinton line in Rap God when he clearly was using that as a point of reference to show how long he's been on the top of the charts. Smh.

But Jay-z can use obscure, unrelatable lines like "I'm the new Jean Michel" and "this Wayne Perry flow."

Pseudo artistic/intellectual garbage that hipster critics eat the fuck up.

Sure, Em gets sales because of his skin color, but gets harshly reviewed because of it too.

out of all artists i think Em has had the worst hypocritical treatment of all time, especially from the media.. It's an absolute joke.. you'd think kanye would get some ill treatment ,the way he battles against the media these days with his rants and the tailor swift fiasco, but no, he's the fucking golden child

[yoda you can call me]

True, Kanye gets praised too much by the media.. I mean, he probably has some good shit but Yeezus is kinda terrible and can in no fucking circumstance be placed above an album like MMLP2 no matter how retarded you are

spot on

"I'll cripple any hypocrtic critic I'm sicked on..."

Great line

[trentimus]

I agree. MMLP2 is NOT a classic. It's a good album with plenty of skippable moments, and some memorable ones.