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Re: I love Stronger Than I was, but...

Postby mwm5952 » Nov 11th, '13, 03:34

if this has been answered before, I apologize, but I haven't seen it. Why does he use the date of November 31st as his anniversary? There is no November 31st. Lying about your anniversary is kinda weak...
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Re: I love Stronger Than I was, but...

Postby Mr Change » Nov 11th, '13, 03:35

mwm5952 wrote:if this has been answered before, I apologize, but I haven't seen it. Why does he use the date of November 31st as his anniversary? There is no November 31st. Lying about your anniversary is kinda weak...


Because the song is probably not about a real girl (Kim or otherwise). Therefore it's sort of a cool idea to have a fictional date as a fictional anniversary.

Just a creative decision on Em's part, I'd say.
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Re: I love Stronger Than I was, but...

Postby Kill You » Nov 11th, '13, 03:37

mwm5952 wrote:if this has been answered before, I apologize, but I haven't seen it. Why does he use the date of November 31st as his anniversary? There is no November 31st. Lying about your anniversary is kinda weak...


Because I believe this song isn't even about a real relationship. It's made up. He obviously drew inspiration from a real relationship but the song is just meant to break up the action after the lyrical onslaught of tracks 1-10.
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Re: I love Stronger Than I was, but...

Postby Mr. Porter » Nov 11th, '13, 04:34

Mr. Porter wrote:Why do people think it's from the perspective of Kim? I'm not arguing with that, but I'm just not seeing it, unless I'm missing something.
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Re: I love Stronger Than I was, but...

Postby UofLCard » Nov 11th, '13, 04:37

I want Em to do an enthusiastic pelvic thrust at this line when if he ever performs it live.
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Re: I love Stronger Than I was, but...

Postby mdemaz » Nov 11th, '13, 04:41

I thought it was a beautiful song.
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Re: I love Stronger Than I was, but...

Postby EndoveProduct » Dec 13th, '13, 20:16

mdemaz wrote:I thought it was a beautiful song.

beautiful yes...but that damn line
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Re: I love Stronger Than I was, but...

Postby Elision » Dec 14th, '13, 01:28

always thought he was saying "up and on" :-k
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comin after who didn't support us...
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Re: I love Stronger Than I was, but...

Postby Kippers » Dec 14th, '13, 17:39

Mr. Porter wrote:
Mr. Porter wrote:Why do people think it's from the perspective of Kim? I'm not arguing with that, but I'm just not seeing it, unless I'm missing something.


People just throw the Kim label on any song he does about a damaged relationship because it's the only one we know about. That or because a lot of people are seeking more Kim bashing.

I think it's designed to be a complete opposite to 'Kim', but whether it's from her perspective, or if it's even about that specific relationship is debatable, because there are things like the fictional Nov 31st which make it intentionally ambiguous.

Who the words are coming from isn't important, but it's thematically the opposite to his attitude at that point, (singing as opposed to screaming), which I think was more the intention than "this is 'Kim' from Kim's perspective."
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