Do you still like Eminem?

[Brainless BadGuy]

He still does diss quite a lot of people on his newer albums even if it doesn't have the same affect anymore. It was alright when he was in his 20's going about making a fool of all the big names in the media but as a 41 year old now it would just seem lame.
He needs radio play to promote his album, what you're suggesting is that he releases a brand new album but doesn't release any singles just because he doesn't need the money ... His reputation would go down the drain.
I admit that some of the singles nowadays are more radio friendly than ones of old but that's just so they can get played everywhere and he knows collabs with Rhianna will go #1. As long as a whole album doesn't go radio friendly I'm fine.

My faith in Em is still completely intact after the release of MMLP2, it exceeded my expectations

[EminemBase]

I agree on this front yo.

My view is that... as an artist - and where he's at, he has absolutely zero need to conform to comply to anybody or compromise any element of his work, for anything.

As to why he does it... it's obviously not for money. There's so many ways he could have made money that he's said no to, endlessly... and I don't believe it's for fame.

Honestly: I think he's actually fairly weak-minded. Recovery kind of proved that, but he's actually ALWAYS done that. I mean just look at his response to Infinite. If it wasn't for people bashing Infinite, he wouldn't have changed; thankfully it was a genius change but still - he has always been highly sensitive, and is a reactionary artist.

He's also pretty loyal once he commits to someone/something, if they don't wrong him...

So, I truly believe he does it for these reasons:

1. Appease Jimmy and his label (as, it's still a business, whichever way you slice it) - as they have given him so much and provided him with so much opportunity, I imagine he finds it hard to ever truly reject a suggestion for a hit direction or theme or whatever, because he feels somewhat indebted.

2. In an attempt to rebuild Shady. I think he knows that the bigger he gets... the bigger Shady gets, and I genuinely think he is trying to help Yela and SH succeed by making the label stronger. As if he doesn't have big hits and sell a lot... his label goes to shit.

My problem with all of this is - if he ignored all of that and did nothing but what he truly felt was genius, with absolutely zero compromise - he would achieve all that much better!

Pop fans are not being fooled in to buying fucking Eminem albums for a single. Nobody buys fucking albums for a single now, they're living in another age and can't get past it. And B.o.B is proof that singles do not drive fucking albums, and MMLP is the double-blind test that they never need to! MMLP did not sell because of a catchy fkn lead single. It sold because people were perplexed, excited and anxious.

So I just do not understand it at all. I understand why he thinks he needs to do it. But it's really just a lack of confidence in selling off of his pure vision. I wish he had the unwavering bigotry of Kanye.

MMLP is unwavering bigotry, that is why it is timeless genius.

He will never make a true masterpiece again until he lets go of all expectations and compromises.

[Elision]

My faith in Em has been completely destroyed.

The man is worth $140,000,000. Why the fuck does he need radio play anymore? He doesn't even like fame either.. it just doesnt make sense.

You get to a certain point financially that it stops mattering. He and his family are gonna be set for as long as they live, and it's been that way for a long time. So I don't know why you're even bringing up his net worth, it matters more to you than it does him, trust me. As for the radio play, that's under the jurisdiction of interscope, Em just makes the music. And once you get to a certain level of fame it's impossible to reverse it no matter how hard you try, MJ is a perfect example. So you're somewhat forced into embracing it because fighting it is just going to make things worse.

Go back and listen to The Real Slim Shady, then compare it to The Monster/ILTWYL.

Any relevant MC today sounds nothing like they did over a decade ago. This is called evolution and it is necessary as an artist in any field.

What happened to him dissing everyone? he dissed Rihanna in Relapse. Then a year later, he was hitting #1 on billboard along side her.

He also spent like 3 years dissing faggots before performing with Elton. Your point is moot.

He could've gone at anyone, and he went for fucking Asher Roth.. fucking Asher Roth.

He's gone at a lot more than that. He just doesn't take it as seriously because he has nothing left to prove. He doesn't have to defend himself. And he's fucking 40, how distasteful would that be at this point?

[EminemBase]

He also spent like 3 years dissing faggots before performing with Elton. Your point is moot.

I was with you until this comment man.

He ALWAYS dissed the [i}idiots who mistook the use[/i] of the word faggot. He played the role of a homophobe, to goad those people (gay morons included) but was ALWAYS winking at the camera, and it was always boringly obvious, to anybody with a brain. At no point did he ever spend time genuinely dissing gay people.

Performing with Elton was just a further provocation to the idiots not familiar with irony, not some kind of amends or change of course. Elton got it from day one too. He never changed course, he stepped it up,

[Elision]

He also spent like 3 years dissing faggots before performing with Elton. Your point is moot.

I was with you until this comment man.

He ALWAYS dissed the [i}idiots who mistook the use[/i] of the word faggot. He played the role of a homophobe, to goad those people (gay morons included) but was ALWAYS winking at the camera, and it was always boringly obvious, to anybody with a brain. At no point did he ever spend time genuinely dissing gay people.

Performing with Elton was just a further provocation to the idiots not familiar with irony, not some kind of amends or change of course. Elton got it from day one too. He never changed course, he stepped it up,

no no that's my point man, he's not serious about it until it comes down to real MC vs. MC beefs.

[Hopsinshadie]

LoL, I told you you guys would flip flop too lol

[Steelez]

he was in my top 5 and now he is in my top 20

[Hopsinshadie]

he was in my top 5 and now he is in my top 20

LMFAO

Everyone falling off!

[yoda you can call me]

Yes, he's untouchable. And if MMLP2 didn't satisfy you, then you can't of been much of a fan in the first place tbh

[Brainless BadGuy]

I will say though - If he makes a radio friendly single with Rhianna for his next album he's taking the piss

[Hopsinshadie]

I will say though - If he makes a radio friendly single with Rhianna for his next album he's taking the piss

nah there is always one more chance for feminem, thats why he keep on punking you fools

[Brainless BadGuy]

If Eminem released a mixtape, D12 album/EP or Bad Meets Evil album/EP I'd be more than happy

[Ares]

I kinda feel the same as OP.

[slims]

What exactly is this thread? Of course we like Eminem! We're all on an Eminem forum. Anyway, yeah he's gone a bit soft but that comes with age and maybe the fact that he regrets a lot. I think the problem is that he wants to please everyone.

[slims]

What exactly is this thread? Of course we like Eminem! We're all on an Eminem forum. Anyway, yeah he's gone a bit soft but that comes with age and maybe the fact that he regrets a lot. I think the problem is that he wants to please everyone.