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Extended wordplay in Desperation

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Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby Mr Change » Feb 6th, '14, 03:57

So I was listening to some MMLP2 and checking out some of the lyrics on rapgenius when I read a lyric explanation that actually isn't a total reach or insanely stupid.

These lines from the third verse of Desperation;
"Games behind your frame of mind ain't the same as mine
I think you need to finish developing a little more mentally too"
Get the picture
That's a negative, Alicia, I will never give the keys up"

feature word play across a couple of lines "Frame/Developing/Picture/Negative", which I think is pretty cool. Not only are the lines pretty good but it's very subtle and you would never notice it on first listen (or in my case and I'm sure a lot of others, repeated listens). There's something about this that I admire way more than mentioning something and having word play on it at the end of the line and then that's it (Like the succeeding Alicia Keys thing). That's too simple.

Glad to see Eminem really went to the greater lengths of his brain to do stuff like this because I'm pretty positive he does it several times on the album, but this is just a good example of what I'm talking about.

Is there any more instances like this from MMLP2 that you can think of or that you enjoy/think is good?
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby Emadyville » Feb 6th, '14, 05:38

that few lines at the end of the first verse is Baby, very similar. Never noticed this tho, and makes sense, with the idea he did it purposely which he had to of done. good find :y:
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby SliK » Feb 6th, '14, 05:42

He does it in Bad Guy and So Much Better, too.
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby Emadyville » Feb 6th, '14, 05:43

SliK wrote:He does it in Bad Guy and So Much Better, too.


i know the so much better one but in bad guy?
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby Solace » Feb 6th, '14, 05:45

I never caught this, dope.
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby PAINKILLƎR » Feb 6th, '14, 05:50

Menzo wrote:
Emadyville wrote:
SliK wrote:He does it in Bad Guy and So Much Better, too.


i know the so much better one but in bad guy?


I think near the end of the fourth verse:

When it's time to walk away, I'm every guilt trip
The baggage you have, but as you gather up all your
Possessions, if there's anything you have left to say, unless it makes an impact, then don't bother
So 'fore you rest your case, better make sure you're packing a wallop

"possessions" too m8
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby Emadyville » Feb 6th, '14, 05:51

^ never noticed that menzo, if thats correct or not, thats sick.

man the mmlp2 and his bonus tracks are fucking filled with amazing shit, which is why i believe this album is a classic, or at worst, would be a classic had some songs been rearranged from the bonus disc to the album
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby csw621 » Feb 6th, '14, 14:48

Revolutionary wrote:underrated
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby sbolli1 » Feb 6th, '14, 16:26

Not as lengthy but I love how he uses these dichotomous terms together:

And i'm pulling for you to push through this feeling
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby HeySamantha » Feb 6th, '14, 16:49

How people can write like that blows my mind, it's really cool.
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby yoda you can call me » Feb 6th, '14, 16:50

HeySamantha wrote:How people can write like that blows my mind, it's really cool.

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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby yoda you can call me » Feb 6th, '14, 18:14

StayWideAwake wrote:So many parts of this album reinforced my opinion that wordplay within the context of verses>>>>>punchlines. Not just Recovery, but of any kind.

Hopefully, Em sticks with it as well
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby UnoDeuce » Feb 7th, '14, 03:46

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Cause Kendrick took the bar and raised it up higher for MCs
Unfortunately the little nigga's like 4 ft 3, the guys a fuckin' midget
His high is still really short to me" -Hopsin
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby yoda you can call me » Feb 7th, '14, 04:17

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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby Kill You » Feb 7th, '14, 04:39

Revolutionary wrote:I always thought Desperation had clever lines, did not notice this because I didn't really give it much thought.

Desperation is way too underrated, the hook could've been better but it's a dope ass song either way.


I agree, I love Desperation myself. It's pretty entertaining.
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