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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby Squiggles123 » Feb 7th, '14, 06:33

Did anyone mention the one from groundhog day?

"So let these words lift, cause all I got is bars
For you dumbbells, since yours ain't working out"
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby Mr.DGAF » Feb 7th, '14, 06:35

Kill You wrote:
Revolutionary wrote:I always thought Desperation had clever lines, did not notice this because I didn't really give it much thought.

Desperation is way too underrated, the hook could've been better but it's a dope ass song either way.


I agree, I love Desperation myself. It's pretty entertaining.


I like all of it except for the "motherfreaking -- DEEP END" part.
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby Emadyville » Feb 7th, '14, 08:11

Squiggles123 wrote:Did anyone mention the one from groundhog day?

"So let these words lift, cause all I got is bars
For you dumbbells, since yours ain't working out"


idk but i def caught that one
Menzo wrote:Its cuz you're dope and Daddy Dubs. No one fucks with that


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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby EminemBase » Feb 7th, '14, 11:27

Yeah that is very cool.

His MMLP2 wordplay with associative language is top shelf shit.

Even the blatant lines like "Get hammered and nail 'her"... totally seamless and clever.

These lines are everything the Recovery lines weren't. On Recovery he wrote a contrived description leading up to the pun to justify it... where as in that example, for example - it's incidental; the puns are happening but the lines are as they should be and no contrived writing is taking place.

I think he's one of the coolest at associative language too.
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby Shady-Yo » Feb 7th, '14, 12:24

When it's time to walk away, I'm every guilt trip
The baggage you have, but as you gather up all your
Possessions, if there's anything you have left to say, unless it makes an impact, then don't bother
So 'fore you rest your case, better make sure you're packing a wallop


These lines are so clever :o Genius.
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby yoda you can call me » Feb 7th, '14, 13:43

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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby csw621 » Feb 7th, '14, 16:13

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSQQRRZLDs0

watching this with desperation on in the background gave my dick an epiphany. no joke.
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby kkaniff » Feb 7th, '14, 16:22

A little less seamless/more contrived:
Finish this stitch so you can reap (rip) what you sow (sew), nit (knit) wit.
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby EminemBase » Feb 7th, '14, 17:11

Shady-Yo wrote:
When it's time to walk away, I'm every guilt trip
The baggage you have, but as you gather up all your
Possessions, if there's anything you have left to say, unless it makes an impact, then don't bother
So 'fore you rest your case, better make sure you're packing a wallop


These lines are so clever :o Genius.


Yeah that is pretty brilliant...

Pun after pun, all related / association... with zero compromise to the context or wording. Seamless.
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby Whitefox » Feb 7th, '14, 18:03

I dont know, but I think he does the same thing with his 3rd verse on Love Game when he mentions all this Dj stuff.

Also, this is not related to the topic, but in the beginning of the first verse of Stimulate its like he constantly says the word "constantly" lol.I think its quite interesting. Maybe Im reaching though.
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby EminemBase » Feb 7th, '14, 18:09

Whitefox wrote:I dont know, but I think he does the same thing with his 3rd verse on Love Game when he mentions all this Dj stuff.

Also, this is not related to the topic, but in the beginning of the first verse of Stimulate its like he constantly says the word "constantly" lol.I think its quite interesting. Maybe Im reaching though.


Yeah he does...

Here goes that broken record, cliché, it's all my fault anyway
She's turning the tables, I'm a beat-break
She treats my face like Serato (DJ company), she cuts and scratches like a DJ
Each day is an Instant Replay


I noticed too but, with MMLP2 shit... you almost (or, I don't at least) don't notice it quite until you see it written out, then it's like... whoah, he got a lotta shit in there.

He deserves credit for his MMLP2 wordplay. I think it rivals wordplay rappers people always quote as > Em. And it's some of his most complex wordplay just in terms of density and continuation, and swiftness.

There's a lot of shit in MMLP2. Just when you think you've heard it all, another line pops up like ''shit yeah, dope'', I only just recently (embarrassingly) realized the fucking ''So huge I need'a shrink" (in size/psychatrist) line in fucking Monster not long ago lmao. I'd always heard the line but just thought he was being tongue in cheek @ poking fun at stars needing shrinks as in... he's famous enough to have one now. Which, the line probably is that too but, I'd just never noticed the size pun. I'm a tard doe.
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby TheBoss123 » Feb 7th, '14, 18:23

Here goes that broken record, cliché, it's all my fault anyway
She's turning the tables, I'm a beat-break
She treats my face like Serato (DJ company), she cuts and scratches like a DJ
Each day is an Instant Replay


I noticed too but, with MMLP2 shit... you almost (or, I don't at least) don't notice it quite until you see it written out, then it's like... whoah, he got a lotta shit in there.

He deserves credit for his MMLP2 wordplay. I think it rivals wordplay rappers people always quote as > Em. And it's some of his most complex wordplay just in terms of density and continuation, and swiftness.

There's a lot of shit in MMLP2. Just when you think you've heard it all, another line pops up like ''shit yeah, dope'', I only just recently (embarrassingly) realized the fucking ''So huge I need'a shrink" (in size/psychatrist) line in fucking Monster not long ago lmao. I'd always heard the line but just thought he was being tongue in cheek @ poking fun at stars needing shrinks as in... he's famous enough to have one now. Which, the line probably is that too but, I'd just never noticed the size pun. I'm a tard doe.[/quote]



I didnt notice that until you just wrote it, this album really blows me away... Its been months and I must have listened to these songs dozens of times, and Im still catching things, i should either be embarrassed or extremely impressed, im gonna go with the latter though
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby yoda you can call me » Feb 7th, '14, 18:35

It's time to get back to that vintage Slim, a little bit of Da vinci mixed with MC Ren.....
He didn't say that for nothing y'all. It's a tapestry of genius
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby sbolli1 » Feb 7th, '14, 20:18

Probably one of my favorites of these examples, from Evil Twin:

"I done quit chicken-heads cold-turkey and started slowly roastin 'em
cus that's where my of my anger is based"
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Re: Extended wordplay in Desperation

Postby Whitefox » Feb 7th, '14, 22:38

Menzo wrote:He does it on purpose at the beginning of "Stimulate", but I don't think that's what the OP is talking about.


I know, but I've just started to think about it and have never paid attention to it. :D I decided to say it here instead of making a new topic. :)
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