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Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby yoda you can call me » Feb 24th, '14, 01:17

http://www.offthetracks.co.nz/eminem-th ... hers-lp-2/

Eminem

The Marshall Mathers LP 2

Aftermath

The first three albums by Eminem suggested a clever if immature/irresponsible rapper – whether you like him or not he’s been an influential MC, his penchant for accented fragments, for chiming along strong internal rhymes all the time, the way he bends the line right around on itself. You can’t argue with his technique. And The Marshall Mathers LP 2 was almost sold entirely on that jaw-dropping party-trick that is Rap God. He spits so fast, no one else can do that – everyone else will be trying – he must be good. Right? Right?

Well, Eminem hasn’t been good for a lot longer than he was ever good. But like that matters. He’s doing better numbers than most – his albums have charted, they sell, he (presumably) keeps finding new fans.

And his rub-the-tummy-while-patting-the-head raps seem to still wow so many. No one is really caring all that much about the fact he has nothing to say – it’s all in the way that he says it.

But surely, after “gimmick” albums that play up his demons and play to his audience here he is committing that worst sin – admitting, with the album’s title, that he’s fresh out of new ideas. There’s actually – really – no reason for this album to be titled up as any sort of sequel to the record that was his breakthrough and is his masterpiece. Beyond the cynical move of attracting sales.

The only thing – really – that links this one to that is Eminem’s worst trait: homophobia. Homophobia that he must announce – that he’s seemingly so proud of.

And even if I defend to my death his right to say what he wants I still find little to actually like on this album. Rap God and Bezerk and Rhyme or Reason all sound like party-tricks rather than good songs; you know the way something like Stan was actually a good song.

Also some of Em’s taunts sound far too far beyond juvenile. Mocking Insane Clown Posse’s Mirrors is like shooting a giant fish-shaped barrel from a foot away. But also he ends up sounding as silly as the clowns he’s trying to parody. Same with shouting out about Monica Lewinski. Strange, dated, irrelevant references – and too-pleased-with-himself commentary, calling out his favourite lyrics just before he spits them, justifying his cussing, cursing and – yes (even) his homophobia.

I can see the appeal of wanting to like an Eminem album – and I can hear that this is better than anything he’s done in a while, if you ignore the bits that are grossly insensitive – that still sound, at best, like an overgrown teenager, a juvenile and just focus in on the sound of his flow, the style of his flow. But production-wise this is dull, as dated as those silly jibes and taunts he throws. And it’s overly long. And man, he just sounds old. When the album opens and he tries his best to set up some new horror-show on Bad Guy it’s really just a hollow show. And he sounds like the old guy.

The line about “if I can’t batter women/how am I supposed to make them a cake” is really something a teenager influenced by Eminem should be writing, rather than the actual Marshall marshal 2Mathers.

All of this trying-to-be-super-clever ultra self-awareness just shows a silly show-off. And that’s at best. For the most part this smells – badly – of a guy trying too hard to shrug off any issues of relevance, and showing, ultimately, that he’s never been capable of harnessing his obvious weakness – fear – incapable of turning that fear into anything resembling a strength.

The Marshall Mathers LP 2 didn’t need to happen. That’s its biggest crime.



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Re: Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby Satan » Feb 24th, '14, 01:38

Yoda I lud u, but you gotta quit making a thread for every negative Eminem review.
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Re: Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby yoda you can call me » Feb 24th, '14, 01:53

Satan wrote:Yoda I lud u, but you gotta quit making a thread for every negative Eminem review.

It doesn't bother me that the album is hated or whatever. Music is subjective after all. But this guy seriously missed the point, so i thought i'd share with you guys :b:
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Re: Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby Jaba » Feb 24th, '14, 01:53

This is stupid, he made a REVISIT album. Meaning, he is trying to change the game AGAIN, he also made some new songs that are classics (Brainless, Groundhog Day, etc.),reflect on his career (Legacy, Evil Twin, Headlights, So Far), and show some sequels (Bad Guy, So Far, So Much Better) so yeah. STFU.
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Re: Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby csw621 » Feb 24th, '14, 03:22

Em's music is kinda like a picasso painting, I think you either get it or you don't.
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Re: Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby DetroitSkills » Feb 24th, '14, 03:27

csw621 wrote:Em's music is kinda like a picasso painting, I think you either get it or you don't.
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Re: Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby Snakebeast » Feb 24th, '14, 03:27

csw621 wrote:Em's music is kinda like a picasso painting, I think you either get it or you don't.

Going with that simile, Yeezus is like Jackson Pollock
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Re: Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby TheBoss123 » Feb 24th, '14, 04:39

I dont think the people who bitch about eminems "homophpbia" actually understand what homophobia is or what hate speech is, using the word faggot does not mean you hate gay people, sorry. Nor does using the word in retaliation for people claiming you hate gay people, actually mean youre saying it cuz you have some sort of distaste for gay people, hes fucking friends with elton john for fucks sake, this "homophobia" stance, is the most tired argument for people attempting to dismantle eminems music. people like that need to take that stick that is so far up their ass and take it out.
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Re: Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby Kill You » Feb 24th, '14, 12:01

Lol this guy thought the only thing that connected this album with his old albums was the homophobia lol. Nope, there is SO much of his old music on this album just done in a different way.
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Re: Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby slims » Feb 24th, '14, 17:14

Satan wrote:Yoda I lud u, but you gotta quit making a thread for every negative Eminem review.

It's like, yeah ok someone disliked the album, big deal. As long as you like it, that's all that matters.
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Re: Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby kkaniff » Feb 24th, '14, 19:16

"For the
most part this smells – badly – of a
guy trying too hard to shrug off any
issues of relevance,"
.
Previous album is second best selling album of the decade. I'm pretty sure he wasn't struggling with irrelevance.
...
" if you ignore the bits
that are grossly insensitive"
.
Idiot.
...
"But production-wise this is
dull, as dated as those silly jibes and
taunts he throws"
.
Really?
...
"ultimately, that he’s never been
capable of harnessing his obvious
weakness – fear – incapable of turning
that fear into anything resembling a
strength."
.
But in my head there's a voice in the
back and it hollas
After the track is demolished
I am your lack of a conscience
I'm the ringing in your ears
I'm the polyps on the back of your
tonsils
Eating your vocal chords after your
concerts
I'm your time that's almost up that
you haven't acknowledged
Grab for some water but I'm that pill
that's too jagged to swallow
I'm the bullies you hate that you
became
With every faggot you slaughtered
Coming back on you every woman
you insult there
With the double-standards you have
when it comes to your daughters
I represent everything you take for
granted
'Cause Marshall Mather's the rapper's
persona's have a facade and
Matthew and Stan's just symbolic of
you not knowing what you had until
it's gone
'Cause after all the glitz and the glam
no more fans that are calling your
name
Cameras are off, sad but it happens
to all of them,
I'm the hindsight to say, "I told you
so!"
Foreshadows of all the things that are
to follow
I'm the future that's here to show you
what happens tomorrow
If you don't stop after they call you
The biggest laughing stock of rap who
can't call it quits
But it's time to walk away
I'm ever guilt trip the baggage you
had
But as you gather up all your
possessions
If there's anything you have left to say
Unless it makes an impact don't
bother
So before you rest your case
Better make sure you're packing a
wallop
So one last time, I'm back
Before it fades into black and it's all
over
Behold the final chapter in the saga
Trying to recapture that lightning
trapped in a bottle
Twice the magic that started it all
Tragic portrait of an artist tortured
Trapped in his own drawings
Tap into thoughts
Blacker and darker than anything
imaginable
Here goes a wild stab in the dark
As we pick up the last Mathers' left off
.?????!!!!!
It's LITERALLY the first fucking song!!!
Fucking idiot.
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I'm done. The rest is just as trash as the few sentences I highlighted.
Who tf are these "reviewers"?
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Re: Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby kkaniff » Feb 24th, '14, 19:23

There's not ONE negative review I've read- and I've probably read all of them- that stands up to semi-intelligent scrutiny.
Not ONE.
Why?
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Re: Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby yoda you can call me » Feb 24th, '14, 19:24

^my nigga
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Re: Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby PAINKILLƎR » Feb 24th, '14, 20:15

Why is this even a thread :facepalm
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Re: Eminem: The Marshall Mathers LP 2 (review)

Postby yoda you can call me » Feb 24th, '14, 20:49

Well last time i checked, this was an Eminem forum, and this thread is Eminem related and i think it's worth posting so we can all see what kind of BS is getting said about the MMLP2, in publications.
Does it really warrant a facepalm? cause i can think of tons that do. i'm just trying to post some relavant shit and keep the forum active mang..
I started this gangsta shit and this the motherfucking thanks i get? eesh
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