Hate On Relapse

[Satan]

The people who hate Relapse are ignorant/oblivious as to the context in which it was made. They either forget how bad Encore was, or they're too stupid to realize how bad Encore was...and don't grasp that Relapse was Eminem rebooting the computer and rising from the ashes.

Does context matter? Bad lyrics are bad, no matter what. And Encore should be, according to your argument, taken into context.

[Shuttle Destroyer]

Seems like you have to fucking loath Recovery to be the cool guy around here but fuck it

The people who hate Relapse are ignorant/oblivious as to the context in which it was made. They either forget how bad Encore was, or they're too stupid to realize how bad Encore was...and don't grasp that Relapse was Eminem rebooting the computer and rising from the ashes.

The bolded part can be applied to Recovery and how he became a better man

Way too many members are not able to enjoy it just because it's clearly the least eminem-ish of all his albums and the fact that he ran away from his charachter to be completly honest and pour his heart out scares them or something

Relapse was Eminem rising from the ashes in the rap game and getting confident to get rid of all costumes and fantasies to rise from the ashes personaly and give you his life, pain, doubts and his fight to get out of a a dark place

One can claim the production is bad, bla bla bla, if the accent is not a problem anymore to anyone here, try to get past that issue. Matter of fact, get past all of your TR induced prejudices and throw your rules and regulations book on how to hate recovery away and listen to the album for what it is. Listen to what he's saying. If you're a true fan, there ain't no way you can't be satisfied with the personal growt your favourite artist has portrayed in this album.

No, Recovery doesn't touch his first 3 to me, not even MMLP2, but calling it shit is completly unfair. You can argue about which Relapse or Recovery is better too. But blindly calling it trash and saying fucking Encore is better than it is straight up disrespect to Eminem and his lifestory.

[Mr Change]

Seems like you have to fucking loath Recovery to be the cool guy around here but fuck it

The people who hate Relapse are ignorant/oblivious as to the context in which it was made. They either forget how bad Encore was, or they're too stupid to realize how bad Encore was...and don't grasp that Relapse was Eminem rebooting the computer and rising from the ashes.

The bolded part can be applied to Recovery and how he became a better man

Way too many members are not able to enjoy it just because it's clearly the least eminem-ish of all his albums and the fact that he ran away from his charachter to be completly honest and pour his heart out scares them or something

Relapse was Eminem rising from the ashes in the rap game and getting confident to get rid of all costumes and fantasies to rise from the ashes personaly and give you his life, pain, doubts and his fight to get out of a a dark place

One can claim the production is bad, bla bla bla, if the accent is not a problem anymore to anyone here, try to get past that issue. Matter of fact, get past all of your TR induced prejudices and throw your rules and regulations book on how to hate recovery away and listen to the album for what it is. Listen to what he's saying. If you're a true fan, there ain't no way you can't be satisfied with the personal growt your favourite artist has portrayed in this album.

No, Recovery doesn't touch his first 3 to me, not even MMLP2, but calling it shit is completly unfair. You can argue about which Relapse or Recovery is better too. But blindly calling it trash and saying fucking Encore is better than it is straight up disrespect to Eminem and his lifestory.

Quoted for truth tbh. Especially the last part

[TheBoss123]

Seems like you have to fucking loath Recovery to be the cool guy around here but fuck it

The people who hate Relapse are ignorant/oblivious as to the context in which it was made. They either forget how bad Encore was, or they're too stupid to realize how bad Encore was...and don't grasp that Relapse was Eminem rebooting the computer and rising from the ashes.

The bolded part can be applied to Recovery and how he became a better man

Way too many members are not able to enjoy it just because it's clearly the least eminem-ish of all his albums and the fact that he ran away from his charachter to be completly honest and pour his heart out scares them or something

Relapse was Eminem rising from the ashes in the rap game and getting confident to get rid of all costumes and fantasies to rise from the ashes personaly and give you his life, pain, doubts and his fight to get out of a a dark place

One can claim the production is bad, bla bla bla, if the accent is not a problem anymore to anyone here, try to get past that issue. Matter of fact, get past all of your TR induced prejudices and throw your rules and regulations book on how to hate recovery away and listen to the album for what it is. Listen to what he's saying. If you're a true fan, there ain't no way you can't be satisfied with the personal growt your favourite artist has portrayed in this album.

No, Recovery doesn't touch his first 3 to me, not even MMLP2, but calling it shit is completly unfair. You can argue about which Relapse or Recovery is better too. But blindly calling it trash and saying fucking Encore is better than it is straight up disrespect to Eminem and his lifestory.

, this post is on point.

[Eratime]

[Shuttle Destroyer]

Wow, thank you Mr. change and TheBoss123

If you're a true fan

You shouldn't ever use this line.

What I meant by that was: "If you're concerned with the man behind the mic and love him too, not just his music"

I'm sure everyone here cares about Eminem like that, never would I question any member level of "fan-iness" (?)

[Kill You]

Recovery was never shit. Not even for an Eminem album it isn't shit, as a rap album it's actually one of the better albums of the past few years. It's just that's not the Eminem I enjoy. Though I enjoy all of his albums, some more than others and for different reasons, Recovery is actually near the bottom. It used to be pretty high for me but Relapse and MMLP2 are much higher on my list. I was one of the people on the Recovery > Relapse bandwagon for some time, because I wanted something new from him and that's what we got. But over time, Relapse got better and Recovery got worse.

I wonder how time will effect MMLP2?

[csw621]

Recovery was never shit. Not even for an Eminem album it isn't shit, as a rap album it's actually one of the better albums of the past few years. It's just that's not the Eminem I enjoy. Though I enjoy all of his albums, some more than others and for different reasons, Recovery is actually near the bottom. It used to be pretty high for me but Relapse and MMLP2 are much higher on my list. I was one of the people on the Recovery > Relapse bandwagon for some time, because I wanted something new from him and that's what we got. But over time, Relapse got better and Recovery got worse.

I wonder how time will effect MMLP2?

Agree with basically all of this. Time will probably affect this project a lot better than it's affected recovery, seeing as how I can't even imagine (though I wouldn't put it past him) another increase in quality comparable to the jump from his late 09/10/early 11 material to his current shit which is imo on a completely different level of maturity and self awareness, both musically and lyrically.

[Kill You]

Recovery was never shit. Not even for an Eminem album it isn't shit, as a rap album it's actually one of the better albums of the past few years. It's just that's not the Eminem I enjoy. Though I enjoy all of his albums, some more than others and for different reasons, Recovery is actually near the bottom. It used to be pretty high for me but Relapse and MMLP2 are much higher on my list. I was one of the people on the Recovery > Relapse bandwagon for some time, because I wanted something new from him and that's what we got. But over time, Relapse got better and Recovery got worse.

I wonder how time will effect MMLP2?

Agree with basically all of this. Time will probably affect this project a lot better than it's affected recovery, seeing as how I can't even imagine (though I wouldn't put it past him) another increase in quality comparable to the jump from his late 09/10/early 11 material to his current shit which is imo on a completely different level of maturity and self awareness, both musically and lyrically.

I agree man, the self-awareness on MMLP2 is astounding. He touches on so many issues people had with him and still do. That was Em making the music he truly wanted to make. I think Relapse inspired him a little bit on MMLP2. I can't imagine Em fully disowning Relapse, I know somewhere deep down he loves Relapse but he understands that although that was close to Eminem...it wasn't Eminem. MMLP2 is Eminem. 100%. That's why it's named that, the album is him doing his own thing and if people don't like it, plenty other people will.

[Shuttle Destroyer]

Recovery was never shit. Not even for an Eminem album it isn't shit, as a rap album it's actually one of the better albums of the past few years. It's just that's not the Eminem I enjoy. Though I enjoy all of his albums, some more than others and for different reasons, Recovery is actually near the bottom. It used to be pretty high for me but Relapse and MMLP2 are much higher on my list. I was one of the people on the Recovery > Relapse bandwagon for some time, because I wanted something new from him and that's what we got. But over time, Relapse got better and Recovery got worse.

I wonder how time will effect MMLP2?

Amazing

That's an example of one can display his personal issues with the album in a clever way while giving an overall fair view on the project

[Just Silver]

i hate mmlp2 more than anything

[Mr Change]

i hate mmlp2 more than anything

yeah it sucks tbh

[PAINKILLƎR]

powerful

[Mr Change]

I don't know why people have such a problem with just letting others dislike Recovery.

Are you really saying this because I specifically remember a nice year-long period where Relapse was the be all end all and not liking it would get you hung in the middle of TRShady townsquare.

[EminemInsider]

The people who hate Relapse are ignorant/oblivious as to the context in which it was made. They either forget how bad Encore was, or they're too stupid to realize how bad Encore was...and don't grasp that Relapse was Eminem rebooting the computer and rising from the ashes.

Does context matter? Bad lyrics are bad, no matter what. And Encore should be, according to your argument, taken into context.

Relapse had good lyrics. It had a lot of bad ideas and stupid accents, but it was still a miracle return to form.