Every Real Eminem Fan Enter Here And Read This

[Inzanity]

great then start up one for Rakim. Now I'm argueing wit u any more so give it up

Whos gone sign it? the "eminem fans"? I made my response, ur not gonna be debating with and telling wen i should rest my case.

Hell I'll sign a petition for Rakim. I'm only askin' that u rest ur case because I'm resting mine and yet no matter how many times I say I'm not arguing wit u anymore u keep comeing back with more to argue about. Now please END THE FUCKING DISSCUSSION

[AspirinE]

great then start up one for Rakim. Now I'm argueing wit u any more so give it up

Whos gone sign it? the "eminem fans"? I made my response, ur not gonna be debating with and telling wen i should rest my case.

Hell I'll sign a petition for Rakim. I'm only askin' that u rest ur case because I'm resting mine and yet no matter how many times I say I'm not arguing wit u anymore u keep comeing back with more to argue about. Now please END THE FUCKING DISSCUSSION

was a joke... lay off the nicotine, coffee or the drugs that making u hyper.
I ended the discussion.

[Inzanity]

great then start up one for Rakim. Now I'm argueing wit u any more so give it up

Whos gone sign it? the "eminem fans"? I made my response, ur not gonna be debating with and telling wen i should rest my case.

Hell I'll sign a petition for Rakim. I'm only askin' that u rest ur case because I'm resting mine and yet no matter how many times I say I'm not arguing wit u anymore u keep comeing back with more to argue about. Now please END THE FUCKING DISSCUSSION

was a joke... lay off the nicotine, coffee or the drugs that making u hyper.
I ended the discussion.

sorry ur just got me agravatided that's all.

[DOPE]

not only he helped white rappers he also helped them other BLACK rappers , in gettin theyr sales boosted up

cuz FIRST it was JUST black fans,,, and when a record dropped only and mostly black people wud buy it

when Em came in ,, white fans was envolved, n now when a black rapper drops a record, BOTH black n white people buy the shit

that means it increased its sales cuz of Eminem

take a look at this site for an example,,,, everybody is also buyin Obie Tricie 50, etc etc,, n mostly (except for a few) all of these people, were NOT into rap TILL they heard Eminem

so lots of the industry OWES to Em

[AspirinE]

not only he helped white rappers he also helped them other BLACK rappers , in gettin theyr sales boosted up

cuz FIRST it was JUST black fans,,, and when a record dropped only and mostly black people wud buy it

when Em came in ,, white fans was envolved, n now when a black rapper drops a record, BOTH black n white people buy the shit

that means it increased its sales cuz of Eminem

take a look at this site for an example,,,, everybody is also buyin Obie Tricie 50, etc etc,, n mostly (except for a few) all of these people, were NOT into rap TILL they heard Eminem

so lots of the industry OWES to Em

White people were always main consumers. 2000 was the time ofcommputarisation, internet and so on. Sales were boosted naturally. Wat has this encrease n paycheck even done in the first place? It singledout Pop rappers from the good rappers, u dont have to be good to sell, u have to be pop. Sales mean nothing, change in music does. Yalll smoking the industry penis, cant believe so many of u actually care about sales more, then quality odf music.


2000-6 - no good change in music... only made the hip hop u listen to POP.




The industry owes nothing to eminem, they made eminem, MTV made eminem, and it could as easily unmake him, and make u hate him. and ud buy the next white rappers CD and buy the cds of people that he signs or works with.

[DOPE]

oh shit
who told asp to post


aite my turn


dawg i aint talkin about the sales thing directly aimin to it ,, what im talkin about has happned, like they WERE white fans, but not as much as they are now, n as Em made hip hop big , like made it more international, thru his 8 Mile most importantly

n 2000-6, no change in music but lots of new sick artists came along , they was never no change in music, only the artists was either killed or they fell off

[Inzanity]

White people were always main consumers.

But ASP I thought u said

He sold more coz hes white

so u said the same thing before that dope said now and now ur sayin' the complete oppesite so make up ur mind ASP did he sell because he was white or were white people always main comsumers?

[AspirinE]

oh shit
who told asp to post


aite my turn


dawg i aint talkin about the sales thing directly aimin to it ,, what im talkin about has happned, like they WERE white fans, but not as much as they are now, n as Em made hip hop big , like made it more international, thru his 8 Mile most importantly

n 2000-6, no change in music but lots of new sick artists came along , they was never no change in music, only the artists was either killed or they fell off

8-mile = good music, thats wat made it famous, eminems whiteness had nothing to do with it. Eminem aint made hip hop big by his mere existance.
This change IS NOTHING, compared to the effect that happened before, if in the times of Ice cubes death certificate people had computers and rewritable cds, eminem would be nothing... I bet u got ur first computer in the time of 2003 and started listning to his music aorund that time. Its Not about WHite/black fans, its all fans, there are more hip hop fans in general, eminem has absolutely no reason to get credit for something that was bound to happen.

Who cares about how many new artists come along, apreciation for real hip hop is gone, the best rappers are stuck in the underground only because the idustry is feeding u bullshit from eminems spoon. Sick artists lmao...


Who 50cent? Obie? Game? lmao... those are average rappers that did nothing for hip hop and dont even sound fresh.



Eminem had a 3 year rule (2000-2003) he broke sales records not because he was doper than Rakim or D12 were better than wu-tang, it was because he was comercialised in the time of heavey music industry expansion.

[AspirinE]

White people were always main consumers.

But ASP I thought u said

He sold more coz hes white

so u said the same thing before that dope said now and now ur sayin' the complete oppesite so make up ur mind ASP did he sell because he was white or were white always main comsumers?

dont quote 2 words out of a sentance to tell me i contradict myself.

eminem does sell coz hes white, he said it hiself. He sells coz he's white coz the industry wants him to sell coz hes white. He sells more than rakim(example of high class rapper) coz hes white, and he doesnt deserve to sell more. Its not a achievement just coz hes privelaged to sell more.


Thats why im saying sales mean NOTHING, and u quoting me eminems records sales is merely rediculous.

edit: Empty promise, i said white people are main consumers because theres more of us... get out the fucking debate if u dont even wanna read my statement correctly.

[DOPE]

man look at it like this

i dont understand is this comerial siht n underground shit,, when Em n 50 didnt have deals they TOO was underground motherfuckers

50 got fresh shit,, fuck the better or commercial shit,, Get Rich Or Die Tryin sold more than any Em album

fuck the sales

Rakim cudnt have done the widespread of hip hop like Eminem did

there are two things, one a rapper is sick,, the other a rapper is sick and is very much influential
thats what Em is

and Tupac was , sick n influential

[Inzanity]

White people were always main consumers.

But ASP I thought u said

He sold more coz hes white

so u said the same thing before that dope said now and now ur sayin' the complete oppesite so make up ur mind ASP did he sell because he was white or were white always main comsumers?

dont quote 2 words out of a sentance to tell me i contradict myself.

eminem does sell coz hes white, he said it hiself. He sells coz he's white coz the industry wants him to sell coz hes white. He sells more than rakim(example of high class rapper) coz hes white, and he doesnt deserve to sell more. Its not a achievement just coz hes privelaged to sell more.


Thats why im saying sales mean NOTHING, and u quoting me eminems records sales is merely rediculous.

LMAO off ASP ur the one who sounds rediculous first u say it's cause he's white then u say white people were always main consumers and now ur sayin' it's cause' he's white again look it can't be both it's either white people were always the main consumers or they weren't the main consumers and Eminem only sold cause' he's white. It'd be impossible to be both because if White people were always main consumers then they wouldn't care what skin color the rapper is wether white, black, chinese, purto rican, etc.. they would buy the record because they like it not because the rapper has a certain skin color. yet if they only bought Eminem's record because he was white then that means that they weren't main consumers because if they only bought the record because he's white then that means they never bought a black rappers record and seein' theres more black rappers then white rappers it'd be impossible for white people to be the main consumers. So make up ur mind ASP

[AspirinE]

man look at it like this

i dont understand is this comerial siht n underground shit,, when Em n 50 didnt have deals they TOO was underground motherfuckers

50 got fresh shit,, fuck the better or commercial shit,, Get Rich Or Die Tryin sold more than any Em album

fuck the sales

Rakim cudnt have done the widespread of hip hop like Eminem did

there are two things, one a rapper is sick,, the other a rapper is sick and is very much influential
thats what Em is

and Tupac was , sick n influential

Omg, u sure do know nothing about influence in hip hop.

Wen rakim MADE hip hop... as in MADE ... as in changed hip hop from elementary rhymes to real deep thoughtfull lyrics he aready shited on 2pac and eminem..

Wen eminem was underground, u didnt listen to him. neigher did u listen to 50cent wen he was underground.

2pac was part of a beef(controversy) - it gave him popularity plus death, the events is wat made him influential. he deserves an award for music not influence made by stupid controversy, controversy wich half-ass hip hop fans eat up on daily basis.


Eminem is not more influential then any rapper before the invention of internet, simply because u cant really compare those times with these times. Petitions about awards because "hes not loved" and hes "influential"(mde hip hop played out) is not something he should be awarded for. Influence in music is wen u influence someone to do better or continue in a similar way.

I Havent seen any of this influence yet, the people that are sick and are blowing up give props to real artists.

[AspirinE]

@empty promises.

Are u a retard of some sort? I said "consumers" in a whole different paragraph explaining the industry. Dont mix my words up in a way that i didnt even say them.


Eminem can be POPULAR coz hes white, and coz the industry exploits this fact, and because some kids love that his white.
- seling coz hes white.
(i explained that)


AND hip hop in whole went up in sales because 70% of listners are white.
-rap turning pop
(explained that)

the recrd sales also went up coz music is more accessable
-rap turning even more pop
(explained that)

[Inzanity]

White people were always main consumers.

u were the one who said this and then contradicted it and ur callin me a retard. ASP truth is u just don't want to admit that Eminem deserves the credit and ur the one doin' the pointless arguments that u can't win because u condradict urself so ASP don't talk when u don't know wat ur talkin' about u'll just make ur self sound stupid in the end

[AspirinE]

Yall are mixing up the two terms


Popularity Influence.
&
Musical Influence.


No award should ever be given for popularity influence, simply coz popularity is a buisness, u dont have to be good to be popular and popular influence is never good for music titselves, good for pockets of the musician only.