Photo relapse era

[Satan]

Eminem was a breath of fresh air during the Relapse era. It was like his TES brain had been put in a time capsule, and he came out in 2009 and went, "what's going on? I'm gonna go for some rhyme records now, brb."

that "ding dong/ping pong/king kong" rhyme scheme in insane

Yeah, but he obviously sucked on Deja Vu when he rhymed "helpin you to get through" with "self-inducin a snooze" and "Elvis do in your shoes."

Clearly the man had no clue what he was doing.

goddammit why pick the best song off of relapse (and my personal favorite eminem song) as an example to be a sarcastic prick

[EminemInsider]

goddammit why pick the best song off of relapse (and my personal favorite eminem song) as an example to be a sarcastic prick

It's your fault for bringing in irreverent snark.

Eminem was on the right track with Relapse and then the moronic fans caused him to go to the cringe-worthy cheese that plagued Recovery.

[Satan]

goddammit why pick the best song off of relapse (and my personal favorite eminem song) as an example to be a sarcastic prick

It's your fault for bringing in irreverent snark.

Eminem was on the right track with Relapse and then the moronic fans caused him to go to the cringe-worthy cheese that plagued Recovery.

Right track? The lyrics were mostly garbage. Most of what he said was irrelevant garbage that just fit the complex rhyme scheme. Stay Wide Awake IS one of his most complex songs of all time, but that doesn't matter when he's using that rhyming ability to talk about winter taking place in December (No way, right?), having the ability to smell pregnant women, scratching like some dumb freak, Jabba the Hutt beddy bye bye, waving razor blades (it's kinda like waving hello except he's using razor blades), and illiterate nonsense where he forgets to add words, which all goes into his claim to compozart like the ghost of Mozart.

But of course, I am aware you are TR super serious non-joking #1 resident, so I'll probably just compose a normal argument when I disagree with you.

[EminemInsider]

goddammit why pick the best song off of relapse (and my personal favorite eminem song) as an example to be a sarcastic prick

It's your fault for bringing in irreverent snark.

Eminem was on the right track with Relapse and then the moronic fans caused him to go to the cringe-worthy cheese that plagued Recovery.

Right track? The lyrics were mostly garbage. Most of what he said was irrelevant garbage that just fit the complex rhyme scheme. Stay Wide Awake IS one of his most complex songs of all time, but that doesn't matter when he's using that rhyming ability to talk about winter taking place in December (No way, right?), having the ability to smell pregnant women, scratching like some dumb freak, Jabba the Hutt beddy bye bye, waving razor blades (it's kinda like waving hello except he's using razor blades), and illiterate nonsense where he forgets to add words, which all goes into his claim to compozart like the ghost of Mozart.

But of course, I am aware you are TR super serious non-joking #1 resident, so I'll probably just compose a normal argument when I disagree with you.

Yes, right track. In 2004, Eminem was rhyming "mad" with "sad" and "bad," and "money" with "the tree" and "from me."

In 2009, Eminem was rhyming "Jessica Alba" with "finesse and nostalgia."

I'd rather skilled serial killing nonsense than horribly-written cheese-fests like Mockingbird. In a genre where nonsensical clowns from Wu-Tang are "respected artists," I think Eminem is entitled to have an album like that where he gets his feet wet again.

Also, I hate to break it to you, but your obnoxious, irreverent snark posts aren't cute or funny. Nobody thinks you're a really cool guy who doesn't take the internet seriously just because you talk "relaxed."

[Satan]

Yes, right track. In 2004, Eminem was rhyming "mad" with "sad" and "bad," and "money" with "the tree" and "from me."

In 2009, Eminem was rhyming "Jessica Alba" with "finesse and nostalgia."

I'd rather skilled serial killing nonsense than horribly-written cheese-fests like Mockingbird. In a genre where nonsensical clowns from Wu-Tang are "respected artists," I think Eminem is entitled to have an album like that where he gets his feet wet again.

Also, I hate to break it to you, but your obnoxious, irreverent snark posts aren't cute or funny. Nobody thinks you're a really cool guy who doesn't take the internet seriously just because you talk "relaxed."

Of course, I'm not talking about just the rhyming. The entire album as a whole doesn't leave a good impression, for me anyways. Regardless of whether or not the rhymes are great, the lyrics are still sloppy. And don't tell me it was because of him still recovering. Deja Vu is a beautifully crafted masterpiece in every way. And SS&D is fantastic aswell. Songs like Old Times Sake, because of that, are somewhat less excusable. No matter what context you look at it at, it's still Eminem who already had enough skill to write Déjà Vu, writing incoherent nonsense about drinking Redbull and peeing on girls. Of course, compared to Encore, it's gold. But there are moments when he gets so weirdly strayed away from that skill where he comes close to Encore-bad.

Also, while I like you have the courage to tell me that, I already knew all of it. Honestly, I don't think that either. For someone with his own house, a girlfriend, and a job, I do care a little too much about the internet. My snark posts come from my genuine personality, I am somewhat of a douche in real life, which perhaps comes from some deep down insecurities, but there you go.

[Amadeo]

I like how he set himself such difficult challenges on Relapse, like telling a story while rhyming entire bars for an entire verse. Of course, he didn't quite rise to that challenge and had to insert a bit of filler/nonsense, but it's still an entertaining listen.

Fucking up when you're attempting something extremely difficult > fucking up when you're attempting something easy or even succeeding at an easy task

[Jaba]

IDK where u guys are getting this fresh eminem shit from on relapse. Relapse was a confused eminem out to just do what he did with encore again. Both records sounds VERY similar.

[Amadeo]

IDK where u guys are getting this fresh eminem shit from on relapse. Relapse was a confused eminem out to just do what he did with encore again. Both records sounds VERY similar.

Encore and Relapse are nothing alike.

[SajN]

IDK where u guys are getting this fresh eminem shit from on relapse. Relapse was a confused eminem out to just do what he did with encore again. Both records sounds VERY similar.

[Excita]

IDK where u guys are getting this fresh eminem shit from on relapse. Relapse was a confused eminem out to just do what he did with encore again. Both records sounds VERY similar.

[Satan]

Em was at his most awkwardest during the Relapse era both on stage and off imo

I'd say his pseudo-serious act during Recovery was his most awkward, he was funny and light hearted in 2009.

you're both wrong.

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Em was at his most awkwardest during the Relapse era both on stage and off imo

I'd say his pseudo-serious act during Recovery was his most awkward, he was funny and light hearted in 2009.

I agree with you, as I was always a fan of how funny and light hearted he was during his comeback with Relapse, but honestly his Recovery phase didn't feel pseudo at all to me. Though it was probably the more awkward phase of the two.

[Jaba]

Em was at his most awkwardest during the Relapse era both on stage and off imo

I'd say his pseudo-serious act during Recovery was his most awkward, he was funny and light hearted in 2009.

I agree with you, as I was always a fan of how funny and light hearted he was during his comeback with Relapse, but honestly his Recovery phase didn't feel pseudo at all to me. Though it was probably the more awkward phase of the two.

????? Have you seen his Recovery Vs Relapse Concerts? Relapse is awkward as hell and Recovery he is back man.

[ganjakush56]

@Brainless

...why do u say encore and relapse are "VERY" similar? I am hesitant to dismiss that as complete retardation; i am genuinely curious.



On a separate note, I think that (aside from standout tracks like Deja Vu, Almost Famous, etc.) that both Recovery and Relapse pale in comparison to his material from the tim westood freestyles from 2009 and 2010. They were so fucking dope and i feel like at the time, he was sitting on mad material full of content, flows, storytelling, and imagery just as he exhibited in those freestyles. To me, the majority of Relapse, while technically great, lacked coherent direction. I feel that he started to go onto tangents far to often; he would spit an entire verse that went in every which direction. On Recovery, I had more direction (in general) but, in terms of lyrics, as we all know, some of his punchlines and wordplay were extremely mediocre, corny, and again, mediocre (theres a game called circle and i don't know - wtf it that?).

In short: 2009 & 2010 Tim Westwood Freestyles >>> (Most of) Relapse & Recovery

MMLP2 doe..goddamn, shit is incredible

[ganjakush56]

Em was at his most awkwardest during the Relapse era both on stage and off imo

I'd say his pseudo-serious act during Recovery was his most awkward, he was funny and light hearted in 2009.

you're both wrong.

I think Eminem is just an awkward person when it really comes down to it. Even from his early days..