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Holocaust cartoon fair opens in Iran

Postby AspirinE » Aug 14th, '06, 23:04

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TEHRAN (AFP) - An international contest of cartoons on the Holocaust opened in Tehran in response to the publication in Western papers last September of caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed.



"We staged this fair to explore the limits of freedom Westerners believe in," Masoud Shojai, head of the country's "Iran Cartoon" association and the fair organizer, said.

"They can freely write anything they like about our prophet, but if one raises doubts about the Holocaust he is either fined or sent to prison," he added.

"Though we do not deny that fact that Jews were killed in the (second world) war, why should the Palestinians pay for it?" Shojai told the opening ceremony of the month-long fair in Tehran's Palestine Contemporary Art Museum.

He added that around 1,100 cartoons were submitted by participants from more than 60 countries and that more than 200 are on show.

He said the top three cartoons will be announced on September 2, with the winners being awarded prizes of 12,000, 8,000 and 5,000 dollars respectively.

Shojai did not elaborate on the source of the prize money, but emphasized that it did not come from any governmental body.

The fair is being staged by Iran Cartoon and the country's largest selling newspaper Hamshahri newspaper, which is published by Tehran's conservative municipality.

The contest was announced in February in a tit-for-tat move after caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed were first printed in Denmark and then picked up and published worldwide, enraging Muslims.

Iran's fiercely anti-Israeli regime is supportive of so-called Holocaust revisionists, who maintain that the systematic slaughter by the Nazis of mainland Europe's Jews and other groups during World War II was either invented or exaggerated.

Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has also prompted international anger by dismissing the Holocaust as a "myth" used to justify the creation of Isreal.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060814/wl ... aholocaust
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Postby AspirinE » Aug 14th, '06, 23:17

--- everyone forgets the biggest holocaust of them all... enslaved africans transported all over the world... 100,000,000 casualties :whistle:



the stupidest things is that africans were brought from africa and then hated....
pshh... colonizers are very narrow minded people.
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Postby katastrophe » Aug 15th, '06, 03:15

u know its funny that Iran has a Holocaust fair...WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE STUPID COUNTRY DOESNT BELIEVE THAT THE HOLOCAUST EVER HAPPENED!!!!
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Postby AspirinE » Aug 15th, '06, 04:04

katastrophe wrote:u know its funny that Iran has a Holocaust fair...WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE STUPID COUNTRY DOESNT BELIEVE THAT THE HOLOCAUST EVER HAPPENED!!!!


There president has more brains than u do.
And he doesnt deny it happened, its how u define "holocaust" and wat happen.

Ill put shit in perspective for u...

The soviet casualties were much greater than the jewish, and we were burnt, gased and "exterminated" too, yet germany aint on our leash.


Go watch some more fox news buddy.
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Postby katastrophe » Aug 15th, '06, 04:25

ASP wrote:There president has more brains than u do.
And he doesnt deny it happened, its how u define "holocaust" and wat happen.

Ill put shit in perspective for u...

The soviet casualties were much greater than the jewish, and we were burnt, gased and "exterminated" too, yet germany aint on our leash.


Go watch some more fox news buddy.


#1. he does deny it happened
Ahmadinejad, a hard-line conservative, has sparked international outrage with some of his previous comments denying the Holocaust
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/05/iran.nukes/index.html

#2. i know the soviets lost more lives than the jewish but the soviets were in the war fighting and the jews had nothing to do with them.

#3. i dont only watch fox news. i watch CNN and BBC(when i get the chance) but i will admit i like fox news more and the only reason is "The O'Rielly Factor"
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Postby AspirinE » Aug 15th, '06, 04:45

katastrophe wrote:
ASP wrote:There president has more brains than u do.
And he doesnt deny it happened, its how u define "holocaust" and wat happen.

Ill put shit in perspective for u...

The soviet casualties were much greater than the jewish, and we were burnt, gased and "exterminated" too, yet germany aint on our leash.


Go watch some more fox news buddy.


#1. he does deny it happened
Ahmadinejad, a hard-line conservative, has sparked international outrage with some of his previous comments denying the Holocaust
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/05/iran.nukes/index.html

#2. i know the soviets lost more lives than the jewish but the soviets were in the war fighting and the jews had nothing to do with them.

#3. i dont only watch fox news. i watch CNN and BBC(when i get the chance) but i will admit i like fox news more and the only reason is "The O'Rielly Factor"




- denying holucaust =/= denying 6 million deaths.


denying holocaust is has a whole theory and in order to understand the meaning u have to read and understand what they have to say.

The fact that u underestimate someone in such a biased way only makes u the dumber person.

Im not saying u have to agree wat he has to say(u prolly never even have read anything he has to say),a person, a president, a country, has the right to state opinion, this opinion is simply controvercial.

I read his discussion about denying the holocaust and he explained all he had to say greatly. Also makes a good point about letting people discuss it. History is matter of opinion, no one can be 100% sure.

And just a reminder to you, wen u speak of presidents and countries, calling them "stupid".. Remind urself about this republican(nazi) person who can barely speak his own language right, who contradicts himself and lies.

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Not to mention that americas education is shit... i usually dont even wanna generalise coz i know that there still are bright americans around, but then there come complete idiots who know nothing of anything that happens outside their country if even that.
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Postby die2nite » Aug 15th, '06, 04:50

ASP wrote:History is matter of opinion, no one can be 100% sure.

But when the history occurred 60 years ago and there is still living proof of it, and it has been so well-documented and recorded with both video, images, and press, it's hard not to be 100% sure. Especially when almost every other country recognizes that their was a holocaust and Germany even apologized for it.
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Postby katastrophe » Aug 15th, '06, 05:02

i would comment on the first thing u said but there is no main points to comment on so im just gonna leave it alone.

and ASP...i 100% agree with u. BUSH IS A DIPSHIT!!!! i hate him and i wish he was never born. he is an embarrassment to the ENTIRE USA. he is a stupid republican who cannot speak his own language. i totally agree.

the education system is a little messed up but it has its highs and lows like every other country. there are people who dont know shit because they dont wanna learn and they deserve to be beaten. but there are people who are bright(like me :8) ) and wanna learn so i totally agree with u there
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Postby AspirinE » Aug 15th, '06, 05:18

die2nite wrote:
ASP wrote:History is matter of opinion, no one can be 100% sure.

But when the history occurred 60 years ago and there is still living proof of it, and it has been so well-documented and recorded with both video, images, and press, it's hard not to be 100% sure. Especially when almost every other country recognizes that their was a holocaust and Germany even apologized for it.


Nha u still missed the point.. Its about terminology and interpritation of events.
Countries can agry with anything, we agreed to bomb iraq, yet we as a people [im taking a bald assumtion from wat ive observed] dont believe its a legal war.

Get me?


In 60 years, god knows how our grandchildren will see this and wat they will right in the books. Coz somewere along the line a media source lies, and u know wat happens... confusion, we dont know, we rely on media and word, so the truth can be determined various different ways.

me? i belive millions of jews were slaughtered, and i also believe 7 million civilians were killed on the soviet side.

Germany also said sorry quick coz Nukes were invented, and they didnt get blasted, yet alone even be tortured for their deeds. All statistics and war plans were signed and archived at that time. So the goverment sticks to them.
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Postby AspirinE » Aug 21st, '06, 07:32

danigantt wrote:... so what's really being disputed is the definition of holocaust, right?

like, he's saying.. if we call the killing of jews during WW2 a holocaust, then all these other things should be called holocausts too.


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Kinda, the denial of the holocaust has a very long story to it.
Its based on "exageration"... and organised disinformation.

But basically, yes ... thats the whole point, its how the jews manipulated the situation and how it was used against other goverments.
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